CARSONS AND OTHERS IN CENTRAL OHIO

A Samuel Carson was found in the Revolutionary War image records.  He was born before 1750 in Pennsylvania and died November 5, 1830 in Licking County, Ohio.  He was possibly the brother of Henry Carson of Mifflin, PA and Hamilton, OH.  Henry and Samuel were in Mifflin, PA in 1790.  This family was closely connected to the Giffin family who also lived in Licking Co, Ohio - some of whom moved to Hamilton Co, OH and married daughters of Henry Carson who wrote a will there in 1802. 

Samuel Carson was in Franklin Twp, Licking, OH in 1830.  In 1820 a William Ijams was also there.  The Ijams family was from the same part of Maryland as the Fowlers and, in fact, Benjamin Fowler's great grandmother was Susannah Ijams.  I'm sure William was related to her some how, but I'm not certain which William this was.

In neighboring Knox Co, Ohio in 1820 we find Nathan Veach, the nephew of Mary Veatch (grandmother of Margaret Ellis).  His son Ellis Veach was also there. 

Also in Knox Co, OH, there were several Walker families who were original settlers.  Joseph Walker was a member of the first Grand Jury impaneled in Knox County on 02 May 1808. He had come to Knox County from Pennsylvania about 1804, bringing his family with him. He and his wife both died in Knox County and were buried in "the Clinton graveyard, with no stone to mark the spot where they lie."   His sons were Philip, Joe, Alexander, James, Robert and John.  The son Robert  was born 1785 in PA, so his father Joseph was probably born before 1765.  This is the same generation that Mary Ann Walker was in (she married Nathan Ellis and was the mother of Margaret Ellis).  Joseph could have been her brother.

In nearby Fairfield and Wyandot counties, a Stinchcomb family settled.  The Stinchcombs were also from Maryland and intermarried with the Fowlers.  Benjamin Fowler's mother was Hammutal Stinchcomb of Anne Arundel, MD.  George Stinchcomb of Fairfield, OH was her third cousin.

Thomas Plummer Ijams of Maryland settled in Muskingum Co, Ohio, located on Licking's eastern border.  His father Thomas Sr. was the nephew of Susannah Ijams. 

Grafton Duvall also settled in Muskingum Co, Ohio.  Grafton was born 1794 in Prince Georges, Maryland, the son of Colmore Duvall and Margaret Clark.  The Duvall family also married into the Fowler family in Maryland.   Marsh Mareen Duvall Jr. lived in Hamilton, OH in 1830 and his grandmother was Anne Fowler, daughter of Thomas Fowler and Susannah Ijams.  Anne Fowler was the aunt of Benjamin Fowler who married Hammutal Stinchcomb.

See Detailed Information about Henry Carson's possible ancestry.

SOME EARLY OHIO LAND GRANT RECORDS
Source:
Early Ohioans' residences from the land grant records
Mansfield, Ohio: Ohio Genealogical Society, Published 1976, 70 pgs.

The following records list only the individuals who are allied with those being researched on this web site.  Shown in each listing is the name, date and place of residence.  Comments are shown below each section.

Those who lived in Hamilton, Ohio:
John Andrews, 10-13-1804, Hamilton, OH
John Barnett, 12-31-1801, Hamilton, OH
John Bigger, 12-16-1801, Hamilton, OH
Joseph Bigger, 12-30-1801, Hamilton, OH
John Carson, 12-30-1801, Hamilton, OH
Samuel Coapstick, 12-30-1801, Hamilton, OH
James Demint, 12-23-1802, Hamilton, OH
Benjamin Devor, 12-29-1802, Hamilton, OH
John Devor, 12-31-1801, Hamilton, OH
William Devor, 12-31-1801, Hamilton, OH
Adam Dickey, 10-11-1804, Hamilton, OH
Samuel Dickey, 4-27-1802, Hamilton, OH
Robert Gilchrist, 12-15-1802, Hamilton, OH
John Hanna, 9-16-1804, Hamilton, OH
Joseph Hanna, 9-4-1804, Hamilton, OH
Robert Hanna, 9-24-1804, Hamilton, OH
Edward Ralston, 11-10-1802, Hamilton, OH
James Snodgrass, 12-28-1802, Hamilton, OH
Robert Snodgrass, 12-28-1802, Hamilton, OH
Wm. Snodgrass, 12-28-1801, Hamilton, OH
Benj. Vancleve, 12-8-1801, Hamilton, OH

COMMENTS:  John Barnett may be the one who married Rebecca Holcomb.  John Bigger may be the son of Samuel Bigger and Abigail Wilson.  John Carson may be the one who married Leah.  Samuel Coapstick may be the father of John Coapstick who married Elizabeth Carson (daughter of John and Leah Carson) of Butler Co, OH.  James Demint may be the father of Samuel Demint who married Mary Jane Carson (daughter of James Carson and Agnes McKee).  Benjamin Devore may be the uncle of Elizabeth Devore who married James A. Fowler in Butler Co, OH.  John Devore may be the one who married Margaret and moved to Darke Co, OH.  William Devore may be the father of John Devore.  Robert Gilchrist may be related to Elizabeth Gilchrist who married Alexander Carson (son of William Carson and Sarah).  Edward Ralston is the one who married Martha Buchanan.  Benjamin Van Cleve may be related to Susan Van Cleve who married William Carson (son of Robert Carson and grandson of William Carson and Eleanor McDuff).

Those who lived in Butler County, Ohio:
Joseph Baird, 6-11-1805, Butler, OH
John Freeman, 9-13-1804, Butler, OH
Matthew Heuston, 10-13-1804, Butler, OH
Matt. Hueston, 12-9-1805, Butler, OH
Dennis Pottenger, 7-13-1804, Butler, OH
John Price, 3-28-1806, Butler, OH
Robert Pottinger, 9-25-1804, Butler, OH
John Welch, 9-10-1805, Butler, OH

COMMENTS: Joseph Baird may be the one who married Jane Van Cleve (poss. aunt of Susan Van Cleve).  John Freeman may be the father of Luther Freeman who married Nancy Dewitt (poss. daughter of Zachariah Price Dewitt).  Matthew Huston may be related to the Huston who married Peggy Carson (daughter of Robert Carson of Champaign, OH). 

Those who lived in Ross County, Ohio:
Samuel Fowler, A-55, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1801
John Hamson (Hanson?), B1-203, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1804
Hugh McGee, B2-35, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1807-1808
John McKee, B1-163, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1804
William Richey, A-74, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1801
James Swearinger, A-80, Ross Co, OH; YEAR: 1801

COMMENTS:  Samuel Fowler was probably related to Benjamin Fowler of Butler Co, OH.  Hugh McGee may be related to married David Carson 1837 in Hamilton Co, OH.  John McKee may be related to Agnes Nancy McKee who married James Carson. 

Those who lived in Franklin County, Ohio:
William Carson Jr., D-82, Franklin Co, OH; YEAR:1806
William Carson Sr., D-82, Franklin Co, OH; YEAR: 1806

COMMENTS:  William Carson Sr. may be the one who married Isabella Gilmore.

Those who lived in Warren County, Ohio:
Joseph Bedle, 3-15-1805, Warren, OH
Robert Benham, 11-29-1805, Warren, OH
John Bigger, 9-4-1804, Warren, OH
Aaron Tullis, 12-26-1804, Warren, OH

COMMENTS: Joseph Bedell (Beedle) was probably the father of Aaron Thomas Beedle who married Mary T. Carson (prob. daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis).  Robert Benham was probably related to Sarah Benham who married Samuel Beedle and Elizabeth Benham who married Jacob Beedle.  John Bigger was probably related to Margaret Bigger who married William Giffin of Mifflin, PA.  Aaron Tullis was possibly related to Jonathan Tullis who married Leah Carson (daughter of John Carson and Leah). 

Those who lived in Fairfield County, Ohio:
Hugh Andrews, 5-16-1814, Fairfield Co, OH
Samuel Chany, B1-87; Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1804
John Hamson (Hanson?), A-189, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1801
Thomas Ijams, B1-77, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1804
James Love, C-157, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1805
John Love, C-157, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1805
Patrick Lusk, A-112, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1801
Peter Matthias, E-166, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1809-1811
James Richey, D-177, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1806
George W. Selby, A-68, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1801
Thomas V. Swearingen, C-48, Fairfield Co, OH; YEAR: 1805

COMMENTS: Hugh Andrews was probably the son of James Andrews and Jean Strain.  Thomas Ijams was probably related to Susannah Ijams who married Thomas Fowler in Maryland.  Samuel Chany (Cheney) was probably related to Elizabeth Cheney who married William Ijams and was the mother of Susannah Ijams.  Patrick Lusk may have been related to John Lusk who married Mary Carson 1759 in Dauphin, PA.  Peter Matthias may have been related to Captain Phillip Matthias under whom Henry Carson served in the Rev. war.  Thomas V. Swearingen may have been related to Van Swearingen who married Elizabeth Walker of Prince Georges, MD. 

Those who lived in Montgomery County, Ohio:
Benjamin Dye, 12-21-1805, Montgomery Co, OH
John Ellis -7-20-1805, Montomgery Co, OH
William Ellis, 7-22-1805, Montgomery Co, OH
John Mann, 12-25-1805, Montgomery Co, OH
Wm. Snodgrass, 2-3-1805, Montgomery Co, OH
Benj. Vancleve, 7-22-1805, Dayton, Montgomery, OH
Benj. Vancleef, 6-13-1805, Montgomery, OH

COMMENTS:  Benjamin Dye was possibly the uncle of Sarah Dye who married David Stinchcomb.  John Ellis could have been the brother of Margaret Ellis.  John Mann was probably the one who married Abigail Devore, aunt of Elizabeth Devore.  Benjamin Van Cleve may be related to Susan Van Cleve who married William Carson (son of Robert Carson and grandson of William Carson and Eleanor McDuff).

Those who lived in Jefferson County, Ohio:
John McFaden, 11-6-1805, Jefferson, OH
Samuel McFaden, 4-10-1810, Jefferson, OH
John McFadon, 4-13-1805, Jefferson, OH
Frs. Gilmore, 3-20-1805, Jefferson, OH
Robert Gilmore, 7-4-1810, Jefferson, OH
James Galbreath, 8-18-1803, Jefferson, OH
James Devore, 1-16-1805, Jefferson, OH
Enos Ellis, 10-26-1801, Jefferson, OH
Thomas Barnett, 4-21-1806, Jefferson, OH
Moses Blackburn, 4-14-1801, Jefferson, OH

COMMENTS:  John and Samuel McFadden were possibly related to the unknown McFadden who married Mary Carson (daughter of Adam Carson of PA).  The Gilmores may be related to Isabella Gilmore who married William Carson Jr. (son of William Carson and Anna McCord).  James Devore may have been related to Elizabeth Devore. 

Those who lived in Belmont County, Ohio:
James McFadden, 2-7-1812, Belmont Co
Joseph Gamble, 9-11-1807, Belmont Co.
Moses Giffen, 6-14-1804, Belmont Co.
Joseph Grimes, 3-14-1806, Belmont Co
Matthew Grimes, 1817, Belmont Co
Jonathan Ellis, 11-14-1801, Belmont Co
Alex. Campbell, 3-28-1806, Belmont Co
Wm. Campbell, 1-7-1806, Belmont Co
Isaac Dickey, 1819, Belmont Co
David Dye, 1812, A-130, Belmont Co

COMMENTS: James McFadden was possibly related to the unknown McFadden who married Mary Carson (daughter of Adam Carson of PA).  Joseph Gamble was possibly related to Sarah "Sally" Gamble who married John Carson of Northumberland, PA).  Moses Giffen was possibly related to James Giffin who married Margaret Carson (daughter of Henry and Agnes Carson).  Joseph and Matthew Grimes may be related to William Grimes who married Nancy Ellis (sister of Margaret Ellis).  Jonathan Ellis is unknown.  Alexander and William Campbell may be related to the unknown Campbell who married Mary Ellis (sister of Margaret Ellis). 

Those who lived in Washington County, Pennsylvania:
John McFadon, 12-9-1800, Washington, PA
Andrew Giffen, 3-7-1804, Washington, PA
Samuel Gilmore, 9-18-1801, Washington Co, PA
John Duvall, 8-10-1810, Washington, PA
Robert Huston Sr., 1816, Washington, PA
Robert Huston Jr. 1816, Washington, PA

COMMENTS:  John McFadden was possibly related to the unknown McFadden who married Mary Carson (daughter of Adam Carson of PA).  Andrew Giffen was possibly related to James Giffin who married Margaret Carson (daughter of Henry and Agnes Carson).  Samuel Gilmore may have been related to Isabella Gilmore.  John Duvall may have been the son of John Duvall and Anne Fowler of MD. 

Those who lived other counties of Pennsylvania:
William Dickie, 6-21-1811, Westmoreland, PA
Thomas Gilmore, 3-10-1812, Chester Co, PA
John Gilchrist, 10-4-1806, Fayette, PA
John Blackburn, 5-30-1803, Franklin Co, PA
John McFaddin, 8-11-1814, Westmoreland, PA
Peter Mann, 1815, B-91, Bedford Co, PA
Robert Gilchrist, 6-12-1802, Pennsylvania

COMMENTS:  Thomas Gilmore may be related to Isabella Gilmore.  John Gilchrist may be related to Elizabeth Gilchrist who married Alexander Carson.  John Blackburn may be related Nancy Glorian Blackburn who married John Carson of Jefferson, TN.  John McFadin may be related to the unknown McFadden mentioned earlier.  Peter Mann may have been related to John Mann who married Abigail Devore (aunt of Elizabeth Devore). 

Those who lived in other counties of Ohio:
John Gilmore, 8-16-1811, Columbiana, OH
Isaac Dewitt, 8-29-1818, Knox Co, OH
Isaac Devire (Devore?), 11-18-1813, Columbiana Co, OH
William Dickey, 6-8-1812, Richland Co, OH
Moses Decker, 5-13-1818, Huron Co, OH
William Duvall, E-142, Delaware Co, OH; YEAR: 1809-1811
George & Samuel McFaddin, 10-31-1814, Harrison Co, OH
Isaac Devore, 1819, Morgan Co, OH
Moses Decker, 1817, Muskingham Co, OH
James Giffin, 1815, Licking Co, OH
John Giffin, 1815, Licking Co, OH
Edward Huston, 1817, Muskingham Co, OH
George McItheny (Mclhenny?), 1820, Perry Co, OH
Jonathan Mann, 1815, A-211, Washington Co, OH
John Mann, 4-11-1814, Trumbull Co, OH
John Mann, 7-13-1814, Richland Co, OH

COMMENTS:  John Gilmore may have been related to Isabella Gilmore.  Isaac Dewitt was probably the son of Israel Dewitt and Jerusha Price.  Isaac Devore was probably related to Elizabeth Devore.  William Dickey may have been related to Sarah Dickey who married John Linn Carson.  Moses Decker may have been related to Sarah Decker who married Nicholas Devore.  James and John Giffin were probably the ones who married daughters of Henry and Agnes Carson.   George McIlhenny was possibly related to James McIlhenny who married Nancy Campbell (prob. daughter of unknown Campbell and Mary Ellis). 

UPDATE AUGUST 12, 2006:  An email was received from a direct Descendant of John Giffin and Elizabeth Carson.  She has information that states John was the son of William Giffin and Hannah Wilson, brother of James Giffin who married Margaret Carson.

Those who lived in Kentucky:
Hugh Andrews, 12-31-1805, Kentucky
John Bigger, 12-10-1805, Kentucky

COMMENTS:  Hugh Andrews was probably the son of James Andrews and Jean Strain.  John Bigger may have been related to Margaret Bigger. 

Those who lived in Virginia:
Benjamin Giffen, 6-21-1804, Brooke Co, VA
Benjamin Frye, 11-4-1806, Frederick Co. VA
Enos Ellis, 7-2-1804, Columbiana, OH
Eyer Ellis, 9-3-1805, Frederick, VA
Theodore Ellis, 8-30-1804, Frederick, VA
James Campbell, 8-30-1802, Louden, VA
Alex. Campbell, 2-2-1801, Brooke Co, VA
Joseph Campbell, 8-23-1805, Brooke Co, VA
Wm. Campbell, 1-30-1807, Brooke Co, VA
John Beatty, 3-24-1812, Brooke Co, VA

COMMENTS:  Benjamin Giffen may have been related to James and John Giffin.  Benjamin Frye may have been the father of Mary Frye who married Samuel Ellis (uncle of Margaret Ellis).  Enos, Eyer and Theodore Ellis are unknown.  James Campbell may have been the unknown Campbell who married Mary Ellis (sister of Margaret Ellis).  See above for comments about Alexander and William Campbell. 

Those with no residence listed:
Jonathan Potts, 10-15-1808, --

Those from other states:
John Gilmore, 8-17-1805, New York
Nn. Galbreath, 10-29-1804, Newberry, SC

DONATION LAND TRACTS - Washington County, Ohio:
Land given to males over age of 18 who promised to carry a gun and protect area from Indians, 1790-1820
Benjamin Beedle, Waterford
James Carson, Duck Creek
Robert Allison, Cats Creek
Jonathan Davol, Cats Creek
Cook Devol, Olive Green
Jonathan Devol 2nd, Cats Creek
Gideon Devol, Wolf Creek
Gilbert Devol, Wolf Creek
Gilbert Devol Jr, Wolf Creek
Gilbert Devol Sr, Wolf Creek
Allen Devol, Wolf Creek
Wanton Devol, Waterford
Peter Dewitt, Rainbow Creek
John Doubleday, NW half of Wolf Creek Mills
John Doubleday Jr, NW of Rainbow Mills
Hezekiah Ellis, Duck Creek
William McKee, Duck Creek
John McGee, Duck Creek
John Patterson, Duck Creek
Michael Rairdon, Above Olive Green
Ezekiel Rallston, Cats Creek
Ezekiel Rolston, Cats Creek
Lewis Walker, Duck Creek
Obediah Walker, Between Waterford and Rainbow
John Walker, NW of Rainbow Mills
Dougal Walker, Rainbow Creek
Patrick Welch, Duck Creek
Andrew Welch, Duck Creek
NOTE: Duck Creek appears to be SE of Cincinnati
based on a map on the following web site:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Cincinnati-Ohio.html

COMMENTS:  Benjamin Beedle is unknown, but may be related to Aaron Thomas Beedle.  James Carson may have been the son of David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  Peter Dewitt was probably related to Zachariah Price Dewitt.  Hezekiah Ellis may have been the uncle of Margaret Ellis. 

CARSON AND ALLIED FAMILIES IN VERY EARLY OHIO

In the early tax lists of Ohio, in Washington County, we find several familiar names as early as 1790.  An attempt to identify some of these people has turned out to be inconclusive, however, it provides several good leads.  I have been unable to identify Samuel Fowler who was in Washington, OH in 1790 and 1800.  There were several Samuel Fowlers related to Benjamin Fowler of Butler Co, OH, but as far as I know, none of them went to Ohio.

Benjamin Ellis is another person I have not been able to identify.  Nathan Ellis had a brother named Hezekiah, b. 1762 MD, d. 1852 Brown Co, OH.  But I do not show that there was a Benjamin Ellis in this family or in this Ellis line.  Hezekiah, the brother of Nathan, was in Washington, PA with Nathan in 1790.  It is not known where Nathan was in 1800, but he was in Washington, PA as late as 1792 and in Adams Co, OH by 1806.  I also don't know where his brother Hezekiah was in 1800, so this one in Washington, OH could be him.  Thomas Gilbraith (Galbraith) is also unknown, as is Thomas Gibson. 

A David Carson is listed in Washington, OH in 1790 but does not appear there again.  By 1810 a James Carson is granted a land donation by the State of Ohio on Duck Creek in return for a promise to carry a gun and protect the area from Indians.  Our David Carson was in Hamilton, OH by 1808.  It is not known where he lived prior to that.  It is suspected that David had a son James born about 1784 and the James Carson in Duck Creek could be him.  If he was the one we suspect him to be, he was probably born in Kentucky, so David could have been in Kentucky before going to Ohio.  In 1810 this James would have been about age 26, old enough to receive a land grant (the requirement was that the grantee must be over the age of 18). 

In the 1810 census of Washington Co, OH we find several Dye families, one of whom is headed by John Dye.  Also listed is Samuel Dye.  I suspect these might be the sons of Andrew S. Dye Sr. and Sarah Miner.  They eventually moved to Miami Co, Ohio.  During the War of 1812 a John B. Dye served in the same unit with David Stinchcomb.  David married Sarah Dye, the niece of John and Samuel Dye.  David Stinchcomb was probably related to Hammutal Stinchcomb, the wife of Benjamin Fowler of MD.  David Stinchcomb also moved to Miami Co, Ohio.

In 1800 David Devore is listed in Washington Co, OH.  Elizabeth Devore who married James A. Fowler (son of Benjamin Fowler) in Butler Co, OH, had an uncle named David who moved to Brown Co, Ohio.  It is possible the David Devore listed in Washington Co, OH was him.  His oldest child was born 1797 in Ohio, so it is known that he was in Ohio very early.

Benjamin Beadle listed in 1790 and 1800 in Washington, OH could be related to Aaron Thomas Beedle who married Margaret Carson, daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  I cannot find a Benjamin in this Beedle family line.  He was living in Hocking Co, OH in 1820 but, according to another database, he died March 29, 1829 in Hocking, OH.  In 1830 his wife Barsheba Beadle was listed in that county.  The other database shows the first wife of Benjamin Beadle was Abigail Convers.  They married September 20, 1791 in Washington Co, OH (Northwest Territory).  His second wife was Bathsheba or Betsy Devol.  Several Devol families were also granted donations of land in Washington, OH.  Benjamin was born about 1766, location unknown.  If you have information about him please contact Sandra.

There were quite a few Walker families in early Washington Co, OH as well.  One or more of them may have been related to Mary Ann Walker who married Nathan Ellis.  If you have information about any of these Walkers please contact Sandra.

OHIO CENSUS FROM 1790 TAX LISTS - Washington County
BENJAMIN ELLIS OH Territorial Residents 1790
DAVID CARSON OH County Residents 1790
JAMES WALKER OH County Residents 1790
BENJAMIN BEADLE OH County Residents 1790
----- FOWLER OH County Residents 1790 (SAMUEL?)
THOMAS GIBSON OH County Residents 1790
THOMAS GILBRAITH OH County Residents 1790
ROBERT WALKER OH Territorial Residents 1790

OHIO CENSUS FROM 1800-1810 TAX LISTS - Washington County
SAMUEL FOWLER OH Miscellaneous Townships 1800
DAVID DEVORE OH Newton Township. 1800 - uncle of Elizabeth Devore?
BENJAMIN ELLIS OH 20201-23001-00 1810
HEZEKIAH ELLIS OH No Township Listed 1810 - brother of Nathan Ellis?
OBADIAH WALKER OH Belpre Township. 1800
JOHN WALKER OH Marietta Township. 1800
DOUGAL WALKER OH Waterford Township. 1800
JOHN WALKER OH Belpre Township. 1803
OBEDIAH WALKER OH Belpre Township. 1803
DOUGALLE WALKER OH Waterford Township.S 1803
DAVID WALKER OH Salem Township 1808
DUGAL WALKER OH Wooster Township 1808
DUGAL WALKER OH Wooster Township 1809
J. CARSON OH No Township Listed 1810 (JAMES)
DUGAL WALKER OH 11301-11000-00 1810
ELIJAH WALKER OH 21001-20010-00 1810

1810 CENSUS WASHINGTON, OHIO
Benjamin Ellis (20201-22010) age 45+
John Dye (01201-00311) age 45+
John Dye Junior (32110-11010) age 26-45
Samuel Dye (01010-40010) age 26-45

MARY ANN WALKER MARRIED NATHAN ELLIS

Mary Ann Walker married Nathan Ellis March, 1770 in Brownsville, Fayette, PA.  If we follow the logic that seems to permeate the marriage patterns of these families, it is easy to believe that Mary Ann Walker was related to Gideon Walker.  Why?  Because he was from Prince Georges, Maryland as were the Fowler, Ellis, Brashears, Duvall, Isaac, Cheney, Naylor and Veach families - and - all of these families were in Washington or Fayette County, PA in 1770-1780 - and - many of them were in Kentucky and later in SW Ohio.  Mary Ann Walker was born August 15, 1752.  Her parents are unknown.  Gideon Walker was born 1729-1738 and married Priscilla Duvall in Prince Georges, MD.  She was the daughter of Mareen Duvall and Ruth Howard.  The historical connections between the Duvalls and Fowlers is discussed elsewhere in this web site.  Gideon Walker was probably related to George and Charles Walker of Prince Georges, MD - possibly the son of Charles Walker Jr.  His father, Charles Sr., married Rebecca Isaac - another family with marriage connections to the Fowlers in Prince Georges, MD.

If we look at the list below of people who signed petitions in Washington Co, PA 1776-1780 we find all the familiar names from Prince Georges, MD.  Thomas and Benjamin Brashears were grandsons of Charles Walker Sr. and Rebecca Isaac.  Their parents were Benjamin Brashears and Rebecca Walker.    Rebecca Walker was the aunt of Gideon Walker.  I believe she was also the aunt of Mary Ann Walker, however, I have no proof of this.  Mary Ann could have been the sister of Gideon.  Margaret Ellis was also the great-great granddaughter of Christopher Ellis and Mary Brashears.

I would venture to guess that these families met up with the Carsons when they were in Washington and Fayette, PA, or possibly earlier in Maryland.  At least one Carson from County Down, Ireland came to America before 1702 and married the great-grand-aunt of Margaret Ellis (Vanessa Ellis) in Prince Georges, MD in that year.  There are records of several other Carson families who were in early Maryland, some of whom migrated to Miami, Ohio.  It is very possible that several Carsons served with these other individuals during the Revolutionary War in Maryland and Pennsylvania.

After the war, some of them went to Greene and Washington, TN, some of them went to Madison, Nelson and Mason, KY and many of them went on to SW Ohio.  Some of them served with Daniel Boone and General "Mad" Anthony Wayne and others were acquainted with Lindsey and Kit Carson.  They were all true pioneers.

An interesting side note:  While reading the book entitled "The Brashear--Brashears family" by Henry Sinclair Brashear, it was revealed why many families left southwestern Pennsylvania and went to Kentucky.  It was due to the fact that when the boundary dispute between Virginia and Pennsylvania made Fayette and Washington counties part of Pennsylvania, and soon thereafter, in 1780,  Pennsylvania passed their "Act for Gradual Abolition of Slavery", some of those who owned slaves decided to move south of the Mason-Dixon line.  Later, of course, some of them gave up their slaves and moved to Ohio.

Bell, Raymond Martin, author
Lists of inhabitants in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 1800 or before : with maps of early townships : 1776-80 petition, 1800 county census
Washington, Pa.: unknown, 1961, 70 pgs.
1776-1780 Petitions signers
Walker: Gideon, Gideon, Henry, James, Robert and William
Veach: Jacob, Nathan, Samuel, William and John
Reddick: Joseph, Thomas and William
Sappington: Caleb, George, Hartley, Jeptha and John
Nailor: Alexander, Benjamin and George
Linsecum (Linthicum?): Josias
Fowler: Jacob
Dye: Benjamin
Duvall: Lewis
Ellis: Hezekiah, Hezekiah, James Sr, Jeremiah, Jeremiah, Jesse, Nathan
Dewitt: Ezekiel, Jeremiah
Cheney: John and William
Brashears: Barruch, Basil, Benjamin, Thomas, Zachariah, Ignatius and Otho
Barnett: Jacob and James
Blackburn: Joseph

MORE ABOUT THE CARSONS IN GREENE AND WASHINGTON, TN

On GENFORUM I found the following message to which I replied as shown....

Rick,
We communicated awhile back about the William Carsons of Greene and Washington counties in TN. I've since learned that David Carson (my 4G gf born 1755-65 and father of Samuel) was probably a son of the William Carson whose will was reviewed in 1796 in Washington Co (there were probably two Williams). The David and Robert who put up the securities were brothers (sons of William in Wash. Co), based on some road records someone found. A descendant of Robert Carson of eastern TN and I have uncovered various evidence that points to them being sons of that William.

My David ended up in NC just across the border when TN and NC were split. Your John Carson could be a son of this William (or the other one who died in the 1780s...if there were two). Based on the age of David's oldest son, I think he was born closer to 1765. David named his known sons Matthew (probably after his father in law), Ambrose, Samuel and William. Samuel named his sons John William and Matthew, William Thomas.

Any more details that would help connect these lines?
Gary Carson

MY REPLY:

Did your Carsons remain in TN/NC or is there a chance they went to Ohio? I have an ancestor David Carson who may be connected to a Robert Carson who died ca. 1823 in Champaign, OH. Robert's son Robert (1812) married Polly Carson in Greene, TN. His dau. Nancy married James Carson in Greene, TN.

here's his will abstract:
Gateway to the West, Volume I, Champaign Co., Will Abstracts,1818-1826, Page 189 CARSON, Robert of Jackson Township dated 6-2-1818; recorded 12-2-1823. Wife mentioned but not named. Sons: James, Robert and Ambrose Carson. Peggy Huston, Betsy, Jinny, Nancy Carson and Polly Carson. Executors: Sons James and Ambrose. Signed: Robert Carson. Witnesses: George Fithian, Nathan Hill and William Fithian.

My David Carson was b. ca. 1766 in PA, m. Margaret Ellis, d. after 1850 of Piatt Co, Illinois.

GARY'S REPLY:

There are several indications that the Robert Carson you mentioned who went to Ohio is connected to my David Carson ancestor. Do you know when he was born?

My David Carson had a brother, uncle and/or nephew all named Robert Carson in Greene or Washington Co TN around 1780....still sorting those out. A younger Robert Jr. seemed to follow our David to Haywood NC (he witnessed some deeds and lived nearby). That Robert's father seemed to have stayed Greene or Washington (or somewhere in TN). There were 4 or 5 Roberts in those counties between 1780 and 1810 plus at least 5 Davids. Some hints:

- My David named a son Ambrose also (just like the Ohio Robert).
- An 1814 court case in Washington TN by Ruth Carson Patterson, widow of William Carson Jr who had died in 1796 (she is now married to James Patterson) seeks her dower (property) due her form William Carson's estate and mentions Robert Carson and wife Peggy "now residing in Ohio" and "other heirs" in her suit. David and Robert Carson had provided security for William Carson Jr's estate when he died in 1796. I think that Robert who died in 1823 in Champaign OH may be the same person. He had left TN between 1796 and 1814.

I've found tons of information in PA on possible locations for our Carson family but nothing confirmed.

Gary

MY REPLY:

Gary

The other researcher who gave me the Greene, TN birth places for Robert Senior's children also gave me the name Nancy for his wife.

Peggy is usually a nickname for Margaret. I don't know of a Robert Carson in OH with a wife named Peggy, but I'll do some checking on that.

The William Carson who wrote a will 1790 in Washington, TN naming wife Margaret may be the one who married Margaret McCord May 1, 1760 in Dauphin, PA.

Named also in the will were children: Jennet, Mary, William and John. William Jr. may have been the one who married Ruth - who next m. James Patterson.

We're probably talking about the same Carson line, since some of yours went to Ohio, but with so many first names being the same, it's not easy to sort them out.

Please tell me more of what you know about your David who was born 1755-1765. Did his son Ambrose stay in TN/NC - do you know anything about him? Also, were there any Hughs or Isabellas in your Carson line? Do any of the following names sound familiar to you?

STRAIN, VEACH, ELLIS, FOWLER, GILMORE, MCCORD, ANDREWS, GIFFIN, REDDICK, NAYLOR, STINCHCOMB, WAMSLEY, ABBOTT, FAWCETT, DOUBLEDAY, BRECOUNT, BEEDLE (BEDELL), PRICE, FREEMAN, HANBY, DEVORE, DEWITT, PITMAN, DONALLY, MULFORD, KILGORE, BARNETT

Thanks, Sandy

SECOND MESSAGE BY GARY:

Sandra,
Do you know if the son of that Ohio Robert who married 1812 to Polly Carson in Greene TN stayed in that area or went to Ohio?

The Robert Carson (Jr.) in Buncombe NC in 1820 was in Haywood NC in 1817 and involved in deeds with those connect to my David Carson ancestor. That Robert was age 26-45 in 1820 (wife same age) with 4 children all under 10, so he was probably born around 1790 and married around 1810.

Thanks,
Gary

MY REPLY:

Gary

I have not looked for Robert and Polly in census records, but if he was in OH I think I would have noticed him by now. I've been pouring over Ohio records for a long time. He could have stayed in NC. I'll do some checking and get back to you.

Your David was born about the same time as my David. Do you know where your David was born? Mine was born c1766 in PA. He may have been the son of Henry Carson, but maybe not. Henry was in Mifflin, PA in 1790 and left a will 1802 in Hamilton, OH naming sons David and Hugh, wife Agnes and some daughters. My David was also in Hamilton, OH in 1820 and possibly before that.

Apparently, there was another David in or near Champaign, OH who m. Hannah - according to this message board posting...

Surnames: BENSON, CARSON
Researcher: Bette Kosmolak
Email: kosmo@pacificcoast.net
Date posted: Saturday, April 8, 2000
Researching for any info on the Benson family of Champaign OH, in particular William Benson, (b. Abt 1800 PA) m. about 1825 to Rachel
Carson (b. Abt 1800, dau of David & Hannah Carson. Wm & Rachels' children born in Champaign Co included: James C (1826), Arthur H
(1827), Hannah (1828), John (1829), David (1831), etc, etc. I haven't been able to determine where in Champaign Co this family lived, or find
the marriage record for Wm & Rachel. Can you help?
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohchampa/query024.htm

Here is Hannah in 1850 Census...

1850 Census - Sprigg, Adams, OH
John Carson, 23, farmer, OH
Hannah Carson, 72, VA
Eliza, 24, OH

Many of my Carsons came from Mifflin, Lancaster, Cumberland & Northumberland, PA and Augusta, VA. The reason I think they may have gone to Greene/Washington, TN is because of other allied individuals who were also there. The will of William Carson 1790 in Washington, TN names an executor John STRAIN - the Strain family was allied with my Carsons and Andrews families.

Thanks, Sandy

UPDATE

I won't publish all the correspondence between myself and Gary, but after several more postings, it was determined that our David was probably not in Washington, TN.  He was probably the one who was in Greene, TN 1791 and 1792.

1790 COUNTY MAP OF PENNSYLVANIA WHERE OUR CARSONS LIVED
(Click Image For a Larger View)

The Carsons being researched on this site lived in Mifflin, Dauphin, Lancaster and Cumberland Counties at about the time this map represents.  Lancaster was created May 10, 1729 from part of Chester Co.   Cumberland was created on January 27. 1750 from part of Lancaster County.   Dauphin was created on March 4, 1785, from part Lancaster County.  Mifflin was created September 19, 1789, from parts of Cumberland and Northumberland counties. 

HENRY CARSON ENLISTED IN LANCASTER, PA

In an attempt to link our Henry Carson with those in Lancaster Co, PA, I found a Revolutionary War record on the Pennsylvania Archives web site for a Henry Carson who enlisted in that county and served  in the 4th Battalion under Captain Phillip Matthias.  The record was dated October 23, 1777.  He served a second tour under the same officer starting July 14, 1778 as a private.  I believe this was the father of our David Carson.  I did not find any David's who served out of Pennsylvania, however, our David was probably too young to serve.  He would have been age 11 in 1777.

Henry Carson, Lancaster, Co, 4th Battalion, 6th Company, Capt. Phillip Matthias, Oct. 23, 1777, served
Second Tour, July 14, 1778, 6th Co, Capt. Phillip Matthias, Rank Pvt.

This is important because it is another link between Henry Carson and William Carson who married Isabella Gilmore.  They were in Lancaster Co, PA.  As more evidence is found, it is becoming quite apparent that Henry was closely connected to the Lancaster, PA Carson families, and probably to the Dauphin Co, PA Carson families also.

Other Revolutionary War records were also found on the PA Archives web site for Carsons who enlisted in Dauphin and Lancaster Co.  Below are the other records.  Notice that Samuel and William Carson both served under Capt. James Barber.  They were probably the sons of John Linn Carson.  A Moses Carson deserted April 21, 1777.  This may have been the son of John Linn Carson or the son of Patrick Carson.  Some of these men did not want to serve because they were Quakers who did not believe in serving.  Moses may have been one of those.

Also notice the name Capt. James McCreight.  He married Jennet Strain, daughter of David Strain of Dauphin, PA.  David Strain's sister Jean married James Andrews.  His grand-niece Christianna Andrews married John Carson, son of our David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  William Carson of Lancaster, PA served under him and a John Strain was an executor on the will of a William Carson 1790 in Washington, TN.  I believe this William Carson on the Rev. War records was the same William Carson who died in Washington, TN.  Also serving under Captain McCreight was Hugh Andrew(s), the son of Jean Strain and James Andrews.  This is an indication that the Andrews family was closely connected to William Carson.  It is possible this William was closely related to our David because of his connection to this same Andrews family.  It is also possible that this William Carson was the one who wrote a will in 1790 in Washington, TN with one of the executors named David Carson.

William Carson married Margaret McCord May 1, 1760 in Dauphin, PA.  She had a brother David McCord and I found a David McCord who also served out of Lancaster, PA.  He may have been her brother.

Also serving was a William Reddick who was probably the father of Joseph Seth Reddick who married Nancy Fowler, daughter of Benjamin Fowler and Mary Naylor.

Serving out of Washington Co, we find Francis and Joseph Beedle.  Joseph was the grandfather of John R. Beedle who married Isabell Carson, daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  Francis Beedle was probably his brother - he served in the same unit.

Francis Carson, Lancaster, PA, First Company under Capt. Wm. Allen, May 1, 1782
George Carson, Lancaster, Co, Capt. Jonathan McClure, 4th Battalion, Dec. 17, 1778
James Carson, Lancaster, PA, 6th Batallion, July 3, 1781
John Carson, Dauphin Co, cert. dated Sept 1, 1791
John Carson, Lancaster, Co, non-attendance, 8th Company
John Carson, Lancaster Co, deserted, 9th Bn, dtd June 8, 1778
John Carson, Lancaster Co, 2nd Co. May 11, 1782
Moses Carson, deserted, April 21, cert dated June 9, 1777
Richard Carson, Lancaster Co, 3rd Co, 4th Battalion, Dec 26, 1778, Capt. Rutherford, later cert. was in Washington Co. [NOTE: son of Patrick Carson]
Samuel Carson, Lancaster Co, Capt. James Barber, 8th Battalion, 1777-1780
William Carson, Lancaster Co, 4th Battalion, 7th Co, 1778, Capt, James Barber 1777-1780, 9th Battalion, 1781, 7th company 1782
William Carson, Lancaster Co, 4th Company, 6th Battalion, , Nov 24, 1780, 9th Battalion, Capt. James McCreight May, 1782
William Carson, Lancaster Co, 5th Co, Capt. Andrew Stewart, 10th Battalion, May 10, 1782
James McCord, Lancaster Co, 4th Bn, 2nd Co, Dec 26, 1778
John McCord, Lancaster Co, 9th Bn, 1st Co, Capt. Wm. Allen, May 1, 1782
John McCord, Lancaster Co, 10th Bn, 1st Co, Capt. James Murray
David McCord, Lancaster Co, 10th Bn, Capt, Wm. Johnson, served July 4th to Aug. 25th, tour of duty at Northumberland, substitute for James McCord, Aug 21, 1781
Hugh Andrew , Lancaster Co, 9th Bn, 5th Co Capt. James McCreight
James Andrew, Lancaster Co, 6th Bn, 4th Co at Northumberland, 1778-1779
John Gilmore, Lancaster Co, 4th Bn, 5th Co, May 20 1778

NO COUNTY MENTIONED:
William Reddick, 1st Reg, cert #75206, Pay to Nov 3, 1783
William Reddick, final settlement, cert #17424, 3rd Regiment, signor of receipt, Alex. Power

WASHINGTON COUNTY, PA:
Francis Bedle, Washington Co, 5th Bn, 1st Co., Nov. 2, 1781
Joseph Bedle, Washington Co, 5th Bn, 1st Co., Nov. 2, 1781

BIG SPRINGS PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH - CUMBERLAND, PA

The following list of members of the Big Springs Church in Cumberland, PA is important because it links William Giffin with the Carsons of Cumberland, PA.  William Giffin was on the 1790 census of Mifflin, PA along with our Henry Carson.  His son James Giffin married Margaret Carson, the daughter of Henry Carson who died 1802 in Hamilton, OH and mentioned her in his will.  He was also the probable father of our David Carson who married Margaret Ellis.  David was also mentioned in his will. 

"BIG SPRING, CUMBERLAND COUNTY 21st March 1786"
CUMBERLAND, PA
John ALLISON, James CARSON, John CARSON, John Bell (2), William GIFFIN, Robert LUSK, John LUSK, David LUSK, Richard WOODS
This church was organized about 1735 when this section "across the river"
belonged to Lancaster County and in 1750 was became Cumberland County.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/cumberland/church/bigspr01.txt
NOT A COMPLETE LIST

Henry Carson may have been the son of an older Henry Carson, born ca. 1720, died ca. 1751 in Augusta, VA. The information below was found on his widow Susannah.  Also listed in Augusta, VA court documents were other records (listed below) for some people with familiar names such as McCord, Dixon, Gilmore and Walker.  Many records of early SW Pennsylvania were maintained in Augusta, VA.

Colonial Virginia Source Records, 1600s-1700s
Listed in: Virginia Wills and Administrations, 1632-1800
Page number: 73
Augusta County, Henry Carson, 1751; Isaac Carson, 1783; Thomas Carson, 1786; Agness Carson, 1788

Abstracts of Wills of Augusta County, Page 21
May 29, 1751 - Susannah Carson's bond as administrix of Henry Carson, with sureties Jacob Woodley, Clement Dixon.
Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, Vol. III, Abstracts of Wills of Augusta County, Page 24
Aug 22, 1751 - Henry Carson's appraisement by John Dobikin, Adam Reader, Alex. Painter
Dec. 3, 1751 - Susannah Carson, relict of Henry Carson (his widow)
Dec. 3, 1751 - Alexander Fullerton, servant of Val. Sevier
Augusta County Court Records, Page 43
Nov 28, 1750 - Robert Moore, late servant of Andrew McCord and James Walker
March 1, 1750 - Susannah, relict of Henry Carson, summoned to qualify on the estate
May 28, 1751 - Edward Davis, servant of John Gilmore of Albemarle, died at the home of James Brown
 

LANCASTER COUNTY, PA

I found Arthur Andrews in Colerain, Lancaster, PA in 1790 - also there was William Carson who married Isabella Gilmore, and he was living next to John Gilmore, her probable brother. Arthur Andrews was on the same page...

Arthur Andrews was the father of Christianna Andrews who married John Carson, most likely the son of our David and Margaret. They were m. Apr 8, 1824 in Butler, OH.

This makes another good case for the theory that our David was closely related to William who m. Isabella Gilmore. Recall they had children who were married in Mifflin, PA. That's where Henry was in 1790.

William Carson's parents were William Carson Sr. and Anna McCord from Clontinaglare, Kilmore Parish, County Down, Northern Ireland.   Wm. Sr. was born May 10, 1727 and our Henry was born in about that same time period - they may have been brothers who came to America together.

Anna McCord was born July 20, 1722 in Ireland. She may have been the daughter of William McCord b. 1680 in Argyle, Skye, Scotland; d. 1739 Lancaster, PA.   He m. Martha.   His father was John Duncan McCord b. 1660 Argyle, Skye, Scotland; d. ca 1715 in Stewartstown, Tyrone, Ireland. He m. Mary (Sarah) McDougall.

Anna's poss. siblings were John, Thomas, Samuel, Mary, David-1712, William-1715-16, James-1739-41, Robert-1739, Jane. Threre's a big gap in years between kids so we're probably missing some.   William McCord Jr. was the one who built Fort McCord in Franklin, PA.   He died there April 1, 1756.   David McCord had a son David who m. Elizabeth Cowden Aug 23, 1798 in Madison, KY. That's where my Benjamin Fowler was from 1792-1800.   So was Lindsey Carson.   Kit Carson was born there in 1809, but Ben Fowler had already moved to Butler, OH by 1808.   Recall Ben Fowler's grandson Benjamin Nicholas Fowler married Nancy Ann Carson abt 1834 in OH.   She was prob. daughter of David and Margaret, so it makes sense that the McCords, Fowlers and Carsons were in Madison, KY at about the same time. David may have been there in between census years.

Alexander Harvey Carson was also from Tyrone, Ireland. They may have known the McCords there and they may have come to America with them.

Exactly how the Mifflin, PA Carsons were related to John Linn Carson, I'm not sure, but I'm fairly sure they were related . Dauphin and Lancaster were once the same county and John Linn Carson was in both of those counties.  That's one reason I think our Henry and David were related to them.  Alexander Harvey Carson had a possible brother Robert Andrew Carson who m. Susie Jean McDuff in Ireland.   Our Carsons may be his descendants.

I think our Henry-David Carson migrated as follows: IRE > MD?? > MIFFLIN, PA > FAYETTE, PA > TN? > KY? > OH > IN > IL

Our Carsons may have been in Baltimore or Prince Georges, MD before going to PA.   That's where Margaret Ellis' ancestors were - and so were the Veaches, Stinchcombs and Fowlers.   And Nathan Ellis was in Washington, PA at about the same time as David was in nearby Fayette, PA.   Nathan Ellis
was also in Washington, PA in the same church with Thomas Carson and Mary Gibson.   So I have a feeling our David was in close contact with them also.  They were descendants of Alex. Harvey Carson, so that's another reason I think our Carsons were also related to him.

We know that Henry was in America by 1766 because David was born in PA in that year. Our first documentation of Henry is Mifflin, PA in 1790, and that's where descendents of George William Carson and Sarah Biddle were. Their son "Tommy" married Vanessa Ellis in Prince Geo., MD.  She was Margaret's gr-grand aunt.  Tommy married her in 1702 - that's a long time before the other Carsons migrated here.  So he may have been the first of this Carson line to come over.  He was born 1678 in County Down, Ireland.

So we have David in indirect contact with Thomas Carson/Mary Gibson - more direct contact with Wm. Carson/Isabella Gilmore - possible indirect contact with John Linn Carson in Lancaster - possible indirect contact with John Linn Carson's decendants in Greene/Washington, TN - possible indirect contact with Lindsey Carson in Madison, KY and maybe in NC too, connections to PG, Maryland, possible indirect connections with Joseph Linn Carson in Hamilton, OH, possible connections with Robert Carson of Champaign/Miami, Ohio, connections in Fountain, IN....

1790 Census
William Carson Colerain, Lancaster, PA 1790 (2-2-4) SAME PAGE: Arthur Andrew (1-0-2) - Image 3
SAME PAGE: William Gilmore (3-0-3) - Joseph Andrew (1-0-2) - John Gilmore (1-2-3)-next to William Carson - Image 3
John Andrews (3-2-5) -NEXT LINE : John Andrews Jr. (1-2-6) - Image 4
John Carson Drumore, Lancaster, PA 1790 (6?-0-3) NEXT LINE: Isaac Andrew (1-0-1) NEXT LINE: James Carson (1-1-1) - Image 2

1827 MIAMI COUNTY, OHIO CENSUS
http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/census/1827-mi.htm

I recently found the 1827 census of Miami Co, Ohio and found some very familiar names.  The follow table shows the names, townships and comments for some of them. If you have information about anyone on list this please contact Sandra.

THE SHAKER SOCIETY IN WARREN CO, OHIO

I just found this excerpt from the Warren, OH Genweb site listing some people who started the Shaker Society in that county.  There are several familiar names....

Beginnings of Shakerism in West.
Manuscript Records and Journals Kept
by the Society From Its First Organization in Warren County
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwarren/Bogan/bogan398.htm
"The United Society of Believers (called Shakers) took its rise in the western country in the year 1805 under the ministration of John Meacham, Issachar Bates and Benjamin S. Youngs, who were commissioned and sent to the western states by the mother church at New Lebanon, New York. They set out on their mission to the west on January 1, 1805, and on Friday, the 22nd of March following, they arrived at this place now called Union Village. On the ensuing Sabbath, Issachar and Benjamin attended the public meeting of the Revivalists or New Lights, as they were called, and at the close of the meeting, read the following letter date of December 30, 1804."

The letter is too long to be here given. It began: "The church of Christ unto a people in Kentucky and the adjacent states, sendeth greeting. We have heard of a work of God among you," etc.
After the letter the record proceeds to give the dates of the first converts of the new faith at Union Village in March and April in 1805, as follows: Malcolm Worley, March 27; Ann Middleton, March 29; Cornelius Campbell, March 31, and about the same time Joseph Stout and soon after Francis and Polly Bedle, and on April 24, Richard and Jenny McNemar. On May 23 the first meeting of the believers was held at the house of David Hill, about a mile from Union Village, south by west.

On July 29, 1805, Elder David Darrow, Daniel Moseley and Solomon King arrived at M. Worley's. Elder David was ordained and sent by the leading authority of the parent church at New Lebanon to take the first spiritual charge of the forming churches in the west. Those with him came as assistants.
The following is a list of the families or heads of families that set out to obey the gospel in 1805 and soon after, though all did not then live in the immediate vicinity of the society: Francis Bedle, Samuel Sering, Samuel Holloway, Elijah Davis, Jonathon Davis, Stephen Spinning, David Spinning, John Dennis, Abner Bornell, Stephen Williams, Benjamin Howard, Amos Valentine, John Miller, Joseph Stout, James Bedle, Richard McNemar, Malcolm Worley, David Hill, Calvin Morrell, Joseph Patterson, John Wallace, John Able, Samuel Rollins, Thos. Junt, Charles West, Allen Woodruff, Moses Easton, David Corey, Daniel Boyd, Cornelius Campbell, Lorenzo Belcher, John Gee, David Johnson, Jno. Sharp, Matthew Houston, Andrew Brown, John Naylor, John Carson, Belteshazzar Draggoo, John Houston, Robert Baxter, James Dickson, Joseph Irwin, Nathan Pegg, John Woods, James Smith, Garner McNemar, William Davis, Sr., Abigail Kitchel, Malinda Watts, Jenny Byrne, Rachael Seward, Betsy Anderson, Reuben Morris, Jacob Holloway, Caleb Pegg, John Slater, Jonathon Gandy, Joseph Lockwood, Thomas N. Naylor, William Runyan, Anne Middleton and some others.

Also, Joseph Linn Carson, son of William Carson and Mary Linn, left his family in Indiana to join the Shaker Society in Hamilton Co, OH.  He died there in 1852.  In the 1850 census he was listed as living at the Oakwood Order of the Shaker Society.  Apparently, the people of that area were not fond of the Shakers and tried various methods to move them out.  (see below).

1850 Census - Crosby, Hamilton, OH
Ezra Shearman, 45, blacksmith OH
Joseph L Carson abt 1772 Virginia occupation: hatter
Reese Stone, 69, blacksmith VA
and several other single people - marked in the columns next to these name:
"Oakwood Order of the Shaker Society"

1810--January 23, hauling logs from a contemplated building near the meeting house. February 3, ten teams hauling cherry logs. April 23, a horse died today, supposed to have been poisoned yesterday. April 24, another horse died, supposed from the same cause as both were in the same stable. August 27, a great gathering of people here today for the avowed purpose of driving the "Old Shakers" out of the country. The number was supposed to be a thousand or more! 400 or 500 of whom were under arms. They found the society attending to their duties, neither dismayed, nor enraged. October 15 (Note--the continual concourse of visitors to and from this place to various points is almost incredible. Many of the distant trips are mentioned in this journal, but the still more frequent ad numerous visitors nearer home, such as to and from Eagle and Straight Creeks, Beaulah and Beaver Creek and Mad River, etc., are seldom noticed in this record).

UPDATE - FEBRUARY 6, 2006

MIFFLIN COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA

The location of Mifflin, PA keeps popping up as I research David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  There was a Carson family from County Down, Ireland (supposedly related to Kit Carson) living in Mifflin, PA. One of them was Aaron Carson b. 1716.  There was an Aaron Carson on early Ohio land records...I don't know if the Ohio Aaron was a descendant of the older Aaron.  I think this Ohio Aaron also went to Darke, OH by 1830 and some of my Fowlers and Devores were also there. One of the earlier Carsons of this Mifflin group married Vanessa Ellis, the great-grand-aunt of Margaret Ellis. He was Tommy Carson, son of George William Carson and Sarah Biddle. This marriage took place in Prince Georges, MD where the Ellises, Fowlers and Veaches were.  Also, another researcher with Carson connections in OH and IN is researching Adam Carson who was in Butler, OH on the 1817 list. She thinks he was related to an older Adam Carson who was in Mifflin, PA. I think this Carson clan is our link. 

Also, William Carson and Isabella Gilmore had children who were married in Mifflin, PA.  They were also from County Down, Ireland.  I think all of these Carsons were closely connected and our Henry Carson was one of them.

UPDATE:  I can find no descendants of the other Carson family from Mifflin, PA who followed a similar migratory path of our Carsons.  Some of their descendants went to Pierce, Wisconsin and others stayed in Mifflin, PA.  This does not mean they were not related to our Carsons.  The Aaron Carson who was in Darke Co, OH was born ca. 1786 in Miami Co, OH.  It is still unknown who he was and where he was from.   Since Benjamin Carson was also in Miami, OH Aaron may be his unknown brother.  Benjamin also had a brother William born April 27, 1828.  A William P. Carson the same age was in Darke Co, OH (in the same township) in 1860 but he was born in New Jersey and so were his parents (1880 census).  Some of William's children were born in Montgomery Co and that's where Benjamin Carson and Sarah McDermott were married.   If you have information about William or Aaron Carson please contact Sandra.

UPDATE MARCH 3, 2006:   Several land records, one in Mifflin, PA and one in Cumberland, PA, connect an Adam Carson to Andrew and William Bratton.  William Bratton was the son of Andrew Bratton.  Henry Carson was listed in Mifflin, PA near George Bratton Sr. George was the brother of Andrew Bratton who was in Bratton Twp, Mifflin, PA in 1755 with Adam Carson. Andrew's son William Bratton was also in Mifflin, PA in 1790. William was listed in the other land transaction with Adam Carson.

This is further evidence that Adam Carson was probably closely related to Henry and Samuel Carson, perhaps a first or second cousin. 

UPDATE MARCH 8, 2006:  It appears that James Carson (s/o Thomas Carson and Mary Smith), bought land next to Isaac Wamsley (father or grandfather of Isaac Wamsley who m. Elizabeth Carson, d/o Adam Carson.) in Adams Co, OH 1801. I would say this indicates that Adam Carson was probably closely related to James Carson.

Gateway to the West, Volume I
Adams Co., Deed Book 1-2-3, 1797-1803, Page 17
8-20-1797 - Nathaniel Massie of Adams Co, NW Territory to Isaac Wamsley Sr, of same county; $500; 279 acres on Brush Creek granted to Massie by patent dated 2-20-1796

Adams Co., Deed Book 1-2-3, 1797-1803, Page 29
11-8-1800 - Nathaniel Massie and Susan, wife, of Adams Co., NW Territory, to James Carson of same; 200 acres on Soldiers Run branch of Brush Creek part of tract of 720 acres granted to Massie by United States 2-20-1796; lines---Alexander Dunlap's 200 acres; Isaac Wamsley's line; Thomas Barbee's tract, and Rankin's tract. Wit: Jos. Moore, George Gordon. Rec. 6-10-1801.

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/digitalbookshelf/29461329/29461329_whole.pdf.
THE GENESIS OF MIFFLIN CO, PA (PENN STATE)
The following settlers had either established themselves in the county or had made improvements to their land during the late Summer and Fall of 1754, according to the information contained in the warrants issued February, 1755:
Adam Carson, Bratton Township, Improvement, Feb. 10, 1755, 70 acres
Andrew Bratton, Bratton Township, Feb. 10, 1755, 124 acres

TIMELINE FOR ADAM CARSON (provided by Nancy):

10 FEB 1755  - Adam Carson
survey draught mentions warrant land Cumberland Co. PA , Wayne Twp. (217+ acres) and survey 17 APR 1787 and order of survey 22 APR 1767 (warrant contains 110 acres), quantity surveyed 107+ acres adjoining the River) Drawing shows land of John Carlisle, Sloman Palmer, William Bratton (Have photocopy)

1790 Census
James Bratten Mifflin, PA 1790 (2-2-6) - Image 17
William Bratten Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-1-2) - Image 18
Edward Bratton Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-1-3) - Image 1
Ersbald Bratton Mifflin, PA 1790 (2-1-4) - Image 1
George Bratton Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-1-4) - Image 1
Phillip Gilmer Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-5-2) - Image 1
George, Senior Bratton Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-1-2) - Image 1
William Giffen Mifflin, PA 1790 (1-4-3) - Image 7
Henery Carson Mifflin, PA 1790 (2-1-4) - Image 3
Catrin Carson Mifflin, PA 1790 (0-2-2) - Image 3

UPDATE - FEBRUARY 4, 2006

Some convincing clues about Henry Carson - possible father of David Carson

 I think Henry Carson was closely related to William Carson Jr. (b. 1745 Clontinaglare, Kilmore Parish, County Down, Northern Ireland) and Isbella Gilmore. William was the son of William Carson Sr. (b. May 10 1727 Ireland) and Anna McCord (b. Jul 20 1722 Ireland).

Their son Samuel married Abigail Black 1801 in Mifflin, PA and Henry was there in 1790. William Carson Jr died Oct 5, 1829 in Ross Co, Ohio. Isabella d. 1811 in Ross, Ohio. According to the information posted by others, Wm and Isabella were married 1771 in Ireland and their first son Samuel was born in Ireland 1773. Their second child, Elizabeth was born 1775 in Colerain, Lancaster, PA. William was in Colerain, Lancaster, PA in 1790 and 1800. I think their son Samuel was in Mifflin, PA in 1800 and their son William #3 was in Mifflin, PA in 1810. Samuel was already in Ross, OH by 1808 along with Hugh Carson. This Hugh was also the son of Wm. and Isabella. There's quite a bit of info about him on the internet. Our David also named a son Hugh....could be named after this Hugh.

A Hugh Carson was in Fayette, PA in 1800 along with a David Carson (possibly the one who married Margaret Ellis). Just how Henry was related to Wm. Carson and Isabella Gilmore, I'm not sure. Wm. was born at about the same time as Henry (1745). Could be a brother.

Notice the name Anna McCord (also spelled MacCord). We have info on some McCords who intermarried with the Carsons who were in Washington/Greene, TN. The McCord Family Assn. web site mentions that some of James McCord's daughters married sons of David Carson.  Unfortunately, it does not mention which James McCord this was (there were many).  James McCord probably married into the Carson family, along with Anna.  The female who possibly married James McCord may have been related to William Carson Sr.  Anna McCord was about 20-25 years older than James McCord, so he could have been a nephew. 

http://www.mccordfamilyassn.com/southwes.htm
Daughters of James McCord in Tennessee's first county, Washington County, married sons of David Carson, one of the Scotch-Irish frontier fighters at The Battle of Kings Mountain, South Carolina in the American Revolution, and he was a cousin of the famous Kit Carson of western fame. James McCord's wife is believed to have been a Carson.

Some McCord - Carson Marriages in Tennessee:
Tennessee Cousins, Page 40
CARSON, MARY to JOHN McCORD, December 6th, 1796. (See note below)
CARSON, SUSANNAH to DAVID McCORD, May 27th  1792.  (See note below)

NOTE: Susannah Carson was the daughter of Moses W. Carson.  It is not known who Mary Carson's father was.  Mary could not be our David's daughter because he and Margaret Ellis had a daughter Mary T. Carson born 1805. 

According to databases on ancestry.com and the LDS web site, David McCord who married Susannah Carson was the son of James McCord Sr.  On ancestry.com his mother is listed as Jane Scruggs.

I can find no McCord females who married into the Carson family during this time period.  If you have information on this please contact Sandra.

Another Possible Clue...

According to Gateway to the West, Vol. I, will abstracts of Champaign, Ohio, a Robert Carson wrote a will dated June 2, 1818 (more about him below).  Two of the witnesses were George and William Fithian.  I found some information about a Rev. Phillip Fithian in early Mifflin, PA where Henry Carson was in 1790 (see below).    Also, According to the LDS web site, William Fithian was the son of George Fithian (see below).  He was reportedly the first white child born in Cincinnati.  He was born in 1799.  It is possible that William and George were related to Rev. Phillip Fithian.  Rev. Fithian was the son of Joseph Fithian and Hannah Vickers and was born in New Jersey.  He died in 1776 as a result of exhaustion and exposure while serving as a chaplain during the Revolutionary War.  He married Elizabeth Beatty only about a year before his death.  According to Raymond Bell's "Genesis of Mifflin County", Rev. Fithian participated in the formation of that county along with his father-in-law, Rev. Beatty. 

George Fithian of Cincinnati was also born in New Jersey.  I have been unable to learn if George was related to Phillip.  However, since Rev. Phillip Fithian was in Mifflin, PA and his possible relatives were close enough to Robert Carson to witness his will, it is possible that Robert Carson was connected to the Carsons who were in or near the area of Mifflin, PA.   It's also possible that Robert was the son of David Carson who married Margaret Ellis.  It's also possible that David and Robert were together in or near Washington/Greene, TN before going to Ohio.

More clues...Henry Carson died 1802 in Hamilton, Ohio.  George Fithian was on the 1799 Hamilton, Ohio Tax List.  This indicates that George Fithian was well acquainted with residents of both Hamilton and Champaign Counties.  Robert Carson was in Champaign, Henry and David were in Hamilton.

Gateway to the West, Volume I, Champaign Co., Will Abstracts,1818-1826, Page 189 CARSON, Robert of Jackson Township dated 6-2-1818;
recorded 12-2-1823. Wife mentioned but not named. Sons: James, Robert and Ambrose Carson. Peggy Huston, Betsy, Jinny, Nancy Carson
and Polly Carson. Executors: Sons James and Ambrose. Signed: Robert Carson. Witnesses: George Fithian, Nathan Hill and William Fithian.

History of that part of the Susquehanna and Juniata valleys, embraced in the counties of Mifflin, Juniata, Perry, Union and Snyder, in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania...
Edited by F. Ellis and A. N. Hungerford.
Published in Philadelphia by Everts, Peck & Richards, 1886
Pages 701-727
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~milliken/alguss/mifflintown.html
CHAPTER VI.
BOROUGH OF MIFFLINTOWN
In 1775 the Rev. Philip Fithian, traveling through this region of country, came down the Licking Creek Valley and crossed the ford opposite John Harris’ place, at whose house he stopped. He describes it as being elegant and the windows in the parlor as containing each twenty-four large lights of glass.

LDS WEB SITE:
William FITHIAN (AFN: 1X0X-N2N)
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Event(s):
Birth: 7 Apr 1799 Cincinnatti, Ohio
Christening:
Town Of Fithian (between Danville & Champaign Il) Named For Dr. William Fithian
Death: 5 Apr 1890
Burial: 1869
Deeded Land For Rr Right Of Way To Secure Local Shipping Station.
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Parents:
Father: George FITHIAN (AFN: 1X0X-KV4)
Mother: Sarah 'FITHIAN' (AFN: 1X0X-N1G)
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Marriage(s):
Spouse: Josephine BLACK (AFN: 1X0X-N8W)
Marriage: 1850
Spouse: Frances 'FITHIAN' (AFN: 1X0X-N3V)
Spouse: Orleatha BERRY (AFN: 1X0X-N43)

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/dbwholepdfs/30484721_whole.pdf.
Raymond Martin Bell "The Genesis of Mifflin County"
Four ministers contributed to the founding of Mifflin County, all were Presbyterians.
The first sermon in the county was preached by Rev. Charles Beatty August 26,
1766 at Holliday's Mill (now McVeytown). Beatty was a missionary sent to the frontier by the
Synod of New York and Philadelphia. His Journal was published in
1768. Nine years later Rev. Philip Fithian, a son-in-law of Beatty, preached in Kishacoquillas Valley.
Although preachers had visited the Valley regularly since 1767, Fithian's contribution was his Journal
(published 1934, Princeton University Press) in which he gave a complete account of the people and how they were living in 1775.

HISTORY OF CHAMPAIGN COUNTY, OHIO

Some very familiar names are included in the history of Champaign Co., Ohio, including Fithian, Beatty, McCord and others.  Miles C. Beatty was an Elder with the United Presbyterian Church in Urbana, Champaign, OH.  He was probably related to the Rev. Beatty, father-in-law of Rev. Phillip Fithian who helped formed Mifflin Co., PA.  They were both ministers in the Presbyterian church.  Among the first settlers of Urbana Township was a John Gilmore.  A John Gilmore was also on earlier census records of Colerain, Lancaster, PA and Washington, PA, along with probable relatives of Isabella Gilmore.  This John Gilmore of Champaign, OH could be the same John from those PA counties.

With all these familiar names, including Robert Carson, residing in early Champaign, OH, it is entirely likely that these people were related to those who were in earlier Mifflin, PA.  From various other publications, it appears that the Fithians and the Beattys were related by marriage to the Reading family of New Jersey, some of whom lived in Hamilton Co, Ohio.  Leah Reading married Robert Carson who died 1827 in Hamilton Co, Ohio.  The ancestry of this Robert Carson is not known.

HISTORY OF CHAMPAIGN COUNTY.
URBANA AND URBANA TOWNSHIP.
http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Champaign/ChampaignUrbana.htm

By the third section of the act defining the boundaries of the county, the temporary seat of justice was fixed at the house of George Fithian, in Springfield, where the first court was held. Court was afterward held at the rapids of the Maumee, though there is no record of the fact, and the statement rests only on hearsay testimony. The seat of justice being removed to Urbana in 1807, a log house on Lot No. 174, on Court Street, afterward occupied as a dwelling-house by Mr. Duncan McDonald, was used as a court-room. The old court house has been removed, and on its site stands the livery stables of Mr. Samuel Marvin. The jail was erected on Lot No. 107, now called the Lawson property.

George Fithian, Joseph C. Vance and Simon Kenton were the first settlers in the village. Thomas Pearce, father of Mr. Harvey Pearce, before the town was laid out, built a log cabin on what is now the market space, and cultivated a field many years on the north side of Scioto street, near East Lawn avenue. George Fithian opened a tavern in a hewed-lag house where Grace Methodist Episcopal Church now stands. Joseph C. Vance, father of Joseph Vance, who afterward served many years in Congress, and was subsequently Governor of the State, was appointed Clerk of the Court, which office he filled until he died, in 1809. In 1806, the inn of George Fithian was changed into a "store," the first in the place, by Mr. Samuel McCord.

Among the first settlers in the village, in addition to those mentioned, were Samuel McCord, Zephaniah Luce, William H. Fyffe, William and John Glenn, Frederick Ambrose, John Reynolds, Edward W. Pearce, and others. In 1811, the population of the town comprised forty-five families. Among these were, besides the above, Benjamin Doolittle, Joseph Hedges, Mrs. Fitch, Dr. Davidson, Alex. Doke, George Hite, Job Gard, Alex. McComsey, John Shryach, Randel Sargent, N. Carpenter, John Frizzle, Joseph Vance, Frederic Gump, David Vance, David Parkison, Lawrence Niles, James Fithian, Wilson Thomas (colored), Toney (colored), Peter Carter (colored), Daniel Helmick, Nathaniel Pickard, Isaac Robinson, John Gilmore, Anthony Patrick, Jacob Thorp, William Powell, ---- Stout, Samuel Trewett, John Huston, Daniel Harr and Henry Bacon. The names of a number of these men will probably recur again in our sketch.

The United Presbyterian Church.-This society was organized in the fall of 1844 by Rev. J. S. McCracken. James Dallas. Andrew McBeth and Miles C. Beatty were elected Ruling Elders, and constituted the session. Rev. Thomas Palmer was first Pastor in 1845, who died Feb. 15, 1847, and was succeeded by L. H. Long in 1849, and by J. B. Findley in 1853. In 1856, the congregation was without a stated pastor, and continued so until 1861, though services were held by Revs. David Payne, T. C. McCaghn and Thomas Brown. W. S. Morhead preached for one year, but declined a permanent pastorate to labor as a missionary in Italy. In December, 1862, T. P. Dysart accepted a call, and died at the end of two years' service. He was succeeded by Rev. H. H. Thompson in April, 1865, who still remains the faithful, earnest and able Pastor of perhaps the smallest church in the city.

PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH COULD BE A CONNECTION

There were several Fithian ministers of the Presbyterian Church and we know that Samuel Alexander Carson was also a Presbyterian minister.  The fact our Carsons seemed to move around quite a bit may have something to do with their involvement in the church, spreading the gospel and being transferred in their assignments from one location to another.  The McCord family from Londonderry, Ulster, Ireland was also connected to the Presbyterian Church....

CLAN MACCORD WEB SITE
John McCord b.12-29-1747 Colmonell, Ayrshire, Scotland. He came to America July 6, 1774. and settled in Ulster Co., NY. In 1776 he served as a private in New York Militia in American Revolutionary War (Company of Captain Drake, Regiment of Col. Palmer) and was stationed at Fort Montgomery building the Fort Rigging). He was in skirmish at Haverstraw in the Company of Cap't Robinson. He served in the line for 18.5 months. He mentioned he had 18 children; we can account for only 17. Possibility - Ida might have died in childbirth with that child. The headstone for John McCord at the Brunswick Rural Cem. in Shawangunk, NY was received from the government and placed there thru the efforts of John's great, great, great grandson and wife Gilbert B. & Patricia McCord. John's son Thomas McCord bought suit against the lawyers and administrator of John's estate. A long legal action resulted, the court finally ruled in Thomas's favor. The Will mentions: James living in Delaware in 1837. Mary a widow at time of father's death. Robert moved to Virginia and died before 1837. Lee living in Ohio. Kesiah not mentioned in Will. William living in Ohio. Andrew living in Wawarsing, NY. Also mentioned Jane Heins (wife of George) of Pennsylvania, Nancy Carney (wife of Matthew) of Ind. -- Might be the 2 girls above -- might be Kesiah and Agnes. Christiana McCord b. 10-4-1814 md. Joseph Ronk. She moved to Huron Co, Ohio, then to Michigan. She is buried St. Louis Cem, St. Louis, Michigan. John McCord received a pension for service as Private in New York Militia. War Records of John McCord, File No. W19870, National Archives. Some descendants live in Allegheny Co. and Sullivan Co. NY. One group of these McCords moved to Huron Co., Ohio and one to Lane Co. Oregon.
Toyboyne Administrative area exist just south of Londonderry Ulster Ireland and a congregation of Presbyterians of unknown numbers came to America, William adopt the name of the area in Sherman's Valley as this minister did come to some place but not earlier than 1760 even if that early?

McCord family of Mifflin, PA

The McCords of Mifflin, PA who married into the Armstrong family were also connected to the Presbyterian Church.  The Armstrongs were involved with the early Mifflin, PA Presbyterian Church.

In a study of the McCord family of Mifflin County, two items link it
with the Armstrongs:
(1) Capt William Armstrong in his will written October 4, 1784
(Cumberland Co Will Bk 2 29) gave his nephews James McCord, half of the
farm (James sold it in 1793). William's wife, Rebecca, got the other half.
(2) Thomas McCord and James Armstrong, jointly, on April 10, 1755
(the same day that William Lyon got land) warranted land across the river
from where William Armstrong later lived, now Granville Township,
Mifflin County, Thomas McCord sold his interest to William Armstrong
in 1763. In 1765-66 Daniel Jones challenged the McCord-Armstrong grant.
See below. Later Daniel's son William married Jane, daughter of Thomas McCord.
Who were these persons? From the Derry Township tax lists it appears that
James McCord was a son of Thomas:
Thomas McCord (Sr) taxed 1776-82 - likely died 1782
James McCord, single freeman, taxed 1779+, with land 1783+
Thomas McCord (Jr) g single freeman 1787
James McCord served In the Revolution. When he died in 1835 his will named
(great) nephew, Thomas McCord. The McCords and William’s nephew, James Lyon,
lived near Capt William Armstrong. page 14Passed down through the McCord family
is this certificate: That Thomas McCord his wife and family lived a
considerable time in the bounds of this congregation and behaved in a sober
and Christian manner, free from scandal and church censures known to me
is certified at Donegal (Ireland) November 1, 1772

When Presbyterianism moved into what is now Mifflin County, one of three
preaching appointments was "near Captain William Armstrong's". (Dept of
History, Presbyterian Church, Phila). Supply preachers were sent to William
Armstrong's 1773-81. Then the preaching point became known as "Derry on
Juniata". In 1781 William witnessed the deed for a church to be built on
land adjoining his farm. The deed was not recorded until 1822. This was
the beginning of the Lewistown Presbyterian Church.
http://ourfamilyhistories.com/hsdurbin/greene/armstrong5.html

Presbyterian Church Marriages in Cumberland, PA

MARRIAGES BY REV. JOHN LINN, CENTRE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, 1778-1793
SHERMANS VALLEY, PERRY (then Cumberland) COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA
United congregations consisting of Centre & Upper (Blain).
The Perry Historians
Church: Marriages, Centre Presbyterian Church, 1778-1793:
Shermans Valley, Perry (then Cumberland) Co
Nov 11, 1783 - Margaret Carson m. William Campbell
Apr. 5, 1786 - Margaret Carson m. Thomas Neely
Feb. 7, 1786 - Mary Armstrong m. William Blaine
Nov. 2, 1784 - William McCord m. Rachel Scouton
Jan. 27, 1791 - Grizzell McCord m. John Morrison
Mar. 1, 1792 - Francis Ellis of Lewistown m. Isabella Miller of Rye Twp.

SOME FAMILIAR NAMES IN DAUPHIN, PA (THESE ARE NOT COMPLETE LISTS)

Kelker, Luther Reily
History of Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, with genealogical memoirs
New York: Lewis Pub. Co., 1907, 1932 pgs.
Jurymen 1785: John Carson, John Pattison
Slave lists: 1788-1825
John Carson, Lower Paxton, slave name Andrew
David Ritchey, Lower Paxton, slave name Cato
David Ritchey, Paxton, slave names: Peter, Violet, Dinah and Isaac Czar
James McKee, Paxton, slave names: George, Bess, Isaac
Hugh Andrews, East Hanover, slave names: Peg and Isaac (son of James Andrews/Jean Strain)
John Gelchrist the younger, slaves: Leah, Andrew, Margaret
Members of the Assembly, 1788-1789 - John Carson

ASSESSMENT FOR THE WEST SIDE OF PAXTON, DAUPHIN, PA - 1750
David Carson
John Carson
James Polke
Wm. Armstrong
James Armstrong
Samuel Price

ASSESSMENT FOR THE NARROWS OF PAXTON, DAUPHIN, PA - 1750
James Carson
Robert and John Armstrong
Thomas McKee

PAXTON, DAUPHIN, PA ASSESSMENT - 1770
Moses Dickey (poss. father or brother of Sarah Dickey)
Wm. Dickey (poss. brother of Sarah Dickey)
James Carson
Geo. Carson (poss. brother of John Linn Carson)
Walter and Robert Clark
John Dickey (poss. brother of Sarah Dickey)
John, Robert and James Gilchrist
Peter and William Patterson
Jacob Roop
James Walker

PAXTANG PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH MARRIAGES - DAUPHIN CO, PA
Apr 28 1785 - Elizabeth Carson and Alexander Wilson
Jun 16, 1748 - James Carson and Mary Espy
Nov 9 1784 - Moses Gilmore and Isabella Wallace
Feb 5 1790 - Nancy Beatty and Samuel Hill
Dec 11 1781 - Samuel McCord and Martha McCormick
May 7 1772 - James McFadden and ???
Jan 25 1776 - James Walker and Barbara McArthur

PAXTANG MARRIAGES BY JOHN ROAN
Mar 22 1759 - Mary Carson and John Lusk
Oct 31 1755 - Robert Carson and Margaret Woods
May 1 1760 - Wm. Carson and Margaret McCord--------------------?????
Dec 25 1760 - Richard Carson and Christine Graham
Apr 16 1761 - Margaret McCord and William Wright
Feb 1 1763 - Margaret Mann and John Baird
May 27 1755 - Margaret Roan and James Barnett
May 6 1762 - David Sterrat and Rachel Tunis
Mar 3 1761 - James Andrews and Jean Strain (James was probable grand uncle of Christianna Andrews who m. John Carson, s/o David Carson and Margaret Ellis)
Apr 23 1760 - Elizabeth Blackburn and Samuel Vernor
Jul 1759 - James Walker and Martha Brown
Feb 1758 - Agnes Walker and Alex McCullom

Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of Dauphin County, Pennsylvania : containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens, and many of the early Scotch-Irish and German settlers.
Chambersburg, Pa.: J.M. Runk, 1896, 1223 pgs.
ASSESSMENT - NORTH END OF PAXTANG, DAUPHIN, PA - 1750
John Carson 300 acres
James Graham 100 acres
William Barnett Jr. 40 acres
William Barnett 50 acres
Stephen Gambel 100 acres
James Gilchrist 100 acres
John Roop 30 acres
WEST SIDE OF PAXTANG - 1751
David Carson
Samuel Price
John Carson
Samuel Gamble
William Armstrong
James Gilchrist
SOUTH END OF PAXTANG - 1751
Moses Dickey
James Lusk
Andrew Hanna
Andrew Husten
Samuel Woods
RETURN OF PAXTANG - 1756
William McCord 100 acres
James Lusk 150 acres
Thomas McCord; John Wilson Jr 200 acres
William Carson 50 acres
Andrew Hannah 100 acres
David Walker 50 acres
William Hannah 100 acres
Moses Dickey (millwright) 200 acres
Jacob Roop 199 acres
James Huston 100 acres
John Cashon (Carson?) 50 acres
William Kelso, Stephen Gamble 50 acres
Andrew Huston 100 acres
John Carson 300 acres
James Wallace 200 acres
John Barnett 50 acres
William Barnett (white) 20 acres
Robert Gilchrist 222 acres
Robert Carson 30 acres
LANDOWNERS:
Hugh Gibson
Michael Gibson
FREEMEN:
Richard Carson at John Carson's
Jeremiah Brandon at George Ellis'
Moses Dickey Jr, John Montgomery at his father's
PAXTANG RETURN - 1758
John Barnett, William Barnett Sr., William Barnett Jr., Richard Carson, John Carson, William Carson, John Carson, Moses Dickey, William Hannah, Widow Hannah, Andrew Huston, Jacob Roop, David Walker
Freemen - Thomas McCord
PAXTANG CONTINENTAL TAX - 1779
John Barnett, John Barnett Sr., Land sold by Carson, George Carson, Richard Carson, William Dickey, John Gilchrist, Robert Gilchrist, James McKee, John Roop, Jacob Roop Sr, Jacob Roop

Commemorative biographical encyclopedia of Dauphin County, Pennsylvania : containing sketches of prominent and representative citizens, and many of the early Scotch-Irish and German settlers.
Chambersburg, Pa.: J.M. Runk, 1896, 1223 pgs.
PAXTANG, DAUPHIN, PA DEATHS
-William Carson of Paxtang, d. Sept 1761, leaving a wife Elizabeth and children: Sarah, Agnes, John, Jean and Eliza
-John Carson of Paxtang, d. February 1765, leaving a wife Elizabeth, and children: William, John, Elizabeth, and step children Sarah Willis and Tillie Gillespie. The executors were Jeremiah Warder, John Ord and John Pywell, all of Philadelphia.
-James Carson of Paxtang, d. July 1773; leaving children Jean and Andrew., brother Alexander, and sister Mary Sloan alias Thompson.
-John Carson of Paxtang, d. January 1778, leaving children: Richard, John, George and Jean, and son-in-law James Wilson. Sons Richard and George were the exec.
-George Dickey, d. October 1748, leaving a wife and children: James, William, John, Sarah, Susanna, Esther, Elizabeth, and Moses. Moses Dickey was executor.
-Moses Dickey of Paxtang, d. May 1766, leaving a wife Agnes and children: William, John, Catherine m. John Forster, Sarah m. John Carson, Agnes m. Robert Dickey, and Moses

If you can identify or have information about any of the above people please contact Sandra
 

UPDATE - FEBRUARY 1, 2006

I checked the following publications about Washington, PA and found some familiar names in estate and deed records.  If you have information about any of these people, please contact Sandra.

Bell, Raymond Martin
Estate records, 1781-96, and deed records, 1782-85, in Washington County, Pennsylvania
Washington, Pa.: unknown, 1967, 41 pgs.
a = accounts filed, both wills and letters of administration
bd = administration bond and letters granted
w = will on file year of probate listed
ch = children named
CARSON, WILLIAM, bd 1782
CARSON, WILLIAM, Buffalo Creek, w 1783; ch 1784; (Mary Johnston, John, Adam, Isaac, Jennet Clark, James), widow Willemina
DEVORE, DAVID bd 1792
DYE, BENJAMIN bd 1789; a 1792 (Andrew); minor ch 1791; (James, George, Sarah)
ELLIS, THOMAS, bd 1782; a 1792; minor ch 1783; (Thomas, Sarah); widow Ann
FOWLER, JAMES w 1782; a 1796
HUSTON, WILLIAM, bd 1782; (James, Elizabeth & Robert); bd 1783
IAMS, WILLIAM w 1795
JOHNSTON, MARY; Fallowfield; w. 1793
LOVE, WILLIAM; bd 1790; a 1792
MCDOWELL, MARY; w 1796; a 1796
MCKEE, DAVID; bd 1786; a 1787; (John & Margaret)
NAILOR, WILLIAM; bd 1795
RALSTON; DAVID; bd 1794
SCOTT, JOSIAH - SAMUEL - THOMAS
SWEARINGEN - THOMAS AND VAN
VEACH, ALEXANDER a 1787
WELCH, HENRY Kings Creek; bd 1782
WELCH, ROBERT bd 1794

Yogahania county
DEVORE, JAMES; 1779
DEMINT, JESSE 1781
FREEMAN, JAMES 1778
WALKER, JOHN 1778

DEEDS
ELLIS, ISAAC AND WILLIAM of Wash. Co. to Wm. Fraser; land on Buffalo Creek; ab Sept, 1774
WALKER, ROBERT of Sisel Twp, Wash. Co. to James Leech, Racoon Cr. 300 acres; Feb 11, 1782

Bell, Raymond Martin, Author
Lists of inhabitants in Washington County, Pennsylvania, 1800 or before : with maps of early townships : 1776-80 petition, 1800 county
census
Washington, Pa.: unknown, 1961, 70 pgs.
NAMES ON 1776-1780 PETITIONS:
BLACKBURN, JOSEPH
BARNETT, JAMES AND JACOB
CANNON, JOHN AND THOMAS
CARSON - ALEXANDER, JAMES, JOHN, THOMAS, WILLIAM
COAPSTICK, SAMUEL
CLEMMONS (CLEMENTS?), - SAMUEL, JOHN, JOSEPH
CHENEY (CHANEY) - WILLIAM AND JOHN
DEWITT, EKEKIEL AND JEREMIAH
DEVER (DEVORE?), HENRY
DECKER, JACOB
ELLIS - HEZEKIAH, HEZEKIAH, JAMES SR, JEREMIAH, JEREMIAH, JESSE, NATHAN
DUVALL, THOMAS
DYE, BENJAMIN
FOREMAN, AARON, GIDEON, JAMES
FOWER, JACOB
FREEMAN, THOMAS, THOMAS, WILLIAM
FRY, SAMUEL AND SAMUEL
GIBSON, EDWARD
GILLELAND, PHILLIP
GILMORE - HUGH, JAMES, MATTHEW AND WILLIAM
GREATHOUSE, HARMAN, JOHN AND WILLIAM
GRIMES, ANDREW AND NOBLE
HALL, JOSEPH, JOHN AND RICHARD
HANNAH, FRANCES AND JAMES
HOWARD, JOSEPH
HUFF, ELIJAH, JOHN, MICHAEL SR, MICHAEL JR.
HUSTON, JOHN
INLOW, ABRAHAM SR AND ABRAHAM JR.
JOHNSTON, BENJAMIN, CORNELIUS, SAMUEL, THOMAS
LOVE, WILLIAM
MCKEE, WILLIAM
MANN, PHILLIP
MCGEE, JOHN
NAILOR, ALEXANDER, BENJAMIN AND GEORGE
NEALY, JAMES
ORR, JAMES
PATTERSON, ALEXANDER AND THOMAS
POLKE, SAMUEL
POTTS, JONATHAN AND WILLIAM
PRICE, CHRISTOPHER, EDMOND AND JOSEPH
REDDICK, JOSEPH, THOMAS AND WILLIAM
RITCHIE, ABRAHAM, GIAS AND ROBERT
SWEARINGEN, DANIEL, JOHN, THOMAS
ULERY, ROBERT
VEACH, JACOB, NATHAN, SAMUEL, JOHN AND WILLIAM
WALKER, GIDEON, GIDEON, HENRY, JAMES, ROBERT AND WILLIAM

The following Brandons on the 1783 Greene, TN Tax List may provide a clue about the Thomas Fowler who was also near there.....and also about the Carsons who were in Greene, TN.

Barnett Brandon
Garrett Brandon
Thomas Brandon

In 1790 Receckah Brandon married Samuel Carson, son of Moses W. Carson and Elizabeth Hannah.  I found the following database for a Rebecca Fowler b. 1802 in Greene, TN who married a James Brandon.  So far, I have been unable to learn the parents of Rebeckah, but it is possible she was related to James Brandon who married Rebecca Fowler. 

ID: I17192
Name: Rebecca Fowler
Given Name: Rebecca
Surname: Fowler 1 2 3
Sex: F
Birth: 18 Dec 1802 in Greene Co., TN 2 3
Death: 30 Sep 1876 in Green City, Sullivan Co., MO 2 3
Burial: Green City, Sullivan Co., MO 2 3
Census: 11 Dec 1850 Dist 13, Monroe Co., IA 3
Census: 24 Aug 1860 Sullivan Co., MO 3
Census: 13 Jul 1870 Union, Sullivan Co., MO 3
Marriage 1 James Brandon b: 20 Jan 1804 in Greene Co., TN
Married: 29 May 1824 in Greene Co., TN

A James Brandon was taxed as a single man in Turbut Twp, Northumberland, PA in 1775 along with many of our allied individuals.  It is not known if he was a relative of the James Brandon who married Rebecca Fowler, however he did have a 1st cousin 2 generations before him named James b. 1753.

Another possible clue:  Rebecca Fowler and James Brandon were living in Monroe Co, Iowa in 1850 which is the same location that Meriba Carson and Mark Jackson Mabry were living.  Meriba was the daughter of our David Carson and Margaret Ellis.

Some of our Fowlers went to Darke Co, Ohio, including Hezekiah Fowler, the probable nephew of our Benjamin Fowler.  Hezekiah was the son of Thomas Fowler.  As mentioned earlier, a Thomas Fowler was on the 1787 and 1796 Greene, TN Tax List.  The Brandon family was also there, so I believe Rebecca was probably the daughter of Thomas.  There were also quite a few Brandons who went to Darke Co, Ohio.

Since the Brandon family married into both the Carson family and the Fowler family, I believe this is significant.

If you have information about the Brandon family that might help in this research, please contact Sandra.

UPDATE - JANUARY 31, 2005

I just learned something interesting.  John Ellis, the brother of Margaret Ellis, married Keziah Brooks.  Keziah was the daughter of Thomas Brooks and Sarah Boone.  Sarah Boone was the daughter of Samuel Boone and Sarah Day.  Samuel Boone was the son of Squire Boone and Sarah Morgan.  They were the parents of the famous Daniel Boone.  So, Daniel Boone was the grand uncle of Keziah Brooks.  Samuel Boone died 1808 in Fayette, Kentucky.  This is the same location where James Carson (b. 1766 VA) died in 1818. 

There may have been more connections between the Ellis family and the Boone family.  Further research is needed.

Yesterday was a very productive day.  With the help of another researcher (thank you Frances!)  I think we've determined the identity of the James Carson who was in 1830 and 1840 Fountain County, Indiana.  It is not known if he was related to David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  I believe he was the eldest son of James Carson and Isabella Gibson of Fayette, Kentucky.  I'll call him James Jr. throughout this update.

James Jr. married Nancy Phillips ca. 1811 in Kentucky.  The had nine children based on census records and the first six were born in Hardin Co, Kentucky.  Here is the 1820 census record...

1820 Census
Jas Carson Little York, Hardin, KY 1820 - (200010-20010) age 26-45 - Image 8

Nancy Phillips was the daughter of William and Lurane Phillips.  James and Isabella had a son James Jr. born between 1780 and 1790 but I didn't know what happened to him.  Nancy Phillips had a brother William who died in Jessamine, KY. There was a William Phillips there in 1810 and a James Carson was there on the 1800 Tax List.  She had another brother who was b. in Fayette, KY in 1785. That's where James Carson and Isabella Gibson were.   In 1830 and 1840 James Jr. was in Fountain Co, Indiana.  He died October 7, 1847, probably in Illinois.  Nancy died about 1835, probably in Fountain County, and James remarried to Eliza Brumley or Brumsey about 1838.  They had three children, the first of whom was born in Indiana in 1840 and the last two (twins), were born 1842 in Avoca, Livingston, Illinois.  This information was obtained from the LDS web site.

We had originally thought that James Jr. was a son of David Carson and Margaret Ellis because we have reason to believe they were in Fountain Co, Indiana between 1830 and 1850.  Their daughter Mary was in Fountain, Indiana by 1828.  Their daughter Elizabeth married Benjamin Duckett 1835 in Fountain, Indiana. (We believe Elizabeth was their daughter because David and Margaret were living with them in 1850.)  Their daughter Elmira married John Henry Welch 1836 in Fountain, Indiana.   Their daughter Isabell married John Beedle 1836 in Fountain, Indiana.  Their daughter Meriba married Mark Jackson Mabry 1845 in Fountain, Indiana. 

The fact that James Carson Jr. was living close to John Beedle and Isabell Carson in 1840 Richland Township, Fountain, Indiana is quite a coincidence (maybe not!). 

We have been unable to locate David and Margaret in the 1840 census so they were probably living with one of their relatives.  David was blind by 1850 and this disability may have occurred earlier, forcing them to live with others.

In 1840 Benjamin and Elizabeth Ducket were living in the county next to Fountain (Montgomery).  Also living in that county were three Carson families.  They were all living in different townships, so it is not known if these Carsons were related.  David Carson born 1810-1820 could be the son of David and Margaret.  A David Carson married Margaret McGee Sep 2, 1837 in Hamilton, OH.  We need to learn more about this David.  The older James Carson born 1780-1790 has also not been indentified.  The William Carson was probably the one from Madison, KY who married Susan Van Cleve.  He was the first cousin of Kit Carson.

1840 Census
Benjamine Ducket Ripley, Montgomery, Indiana (0311001-012001) age 40-50 <1790-1800>
David Carson Union, Montgomery, Indiana (20001-00001) age 20-30 <1810-1820>
James Carson Franklin, Montgomery, Indiana (00210001-02100001) age 50-60 <1780-1790>
William Carson Brown, Montgomery, Indiana (0102001-0111001) age 40-50 <1790-1800>
2 lines away: John Van Cleave

John Henry Welch and Elmira Carson were married in Fountain, Indiana and there was a Henry Welch there in 1840, born 1780-1790.  This Henry may have been related to John.  In 1840 John Henry Welch was in Sangamon, Illinois.  Aaron T. Beedle married Elmira's sister Mary.  John Beedle married her sister Isabell.  Aaron was the uncle of John Beedle.  In 1840 Aaron and Mary were in Richland, Fountain, Indiana, as were John and Isabell.

1840 census
Henery Welch Not Stated, Fountain, Indiana (00000001-00000001) age 50-60 <1780-1790>
John H Welsh Not Stated, Sangamon, Illinois (10001-10001) age 20-30 <1810-1820> - Image 68
Aaron T Beedle Richland, Fountain, Indiana (113011-001101) age 30-40 <1800-1810> - Image 11
John Beedle Richland, Fountain, Indiana (100010001-10001001) age 60-70 or 20-30 <1770-1780> or <1810-1820> - Image 3
James Carson Richland, Fountain, Indiana (01120001-200001) age 50-60 <1780-1790> - Image 19
(Believed to be the son of James Carson and Isabella Gibson)

Aaron and John Beedle were descendants of Joseph Beedle and Mary Meek of Washington, PA.  Joseph was in Morgan Twp, Washington, PA in 1786 and he was in Ohio by 1790.  He may have known the Carson and Ellis families when they lived in Washington and Fayette, PA.

We are, unfortunately, no closer to identifying the ancestors of David Carson who married Margaret Ellis.  It is still believed that he may have been the son of Henry Carson who died 1802 in Hamilton, OH and who was probably in Mifflin, PA 1775-1790.  I strongly feel that he was closely connected to the Carsons who were in Washington, PA and attended the same church as Nathan Ellis.  These Carsons went to Adams (and possibly Champaign) Ohio, and possibly to Greene/Washington, TN before going to Ohio.  These Carsons were descendants of Thomas Carson (son of William Carson and Eleanor McDuff) and Mary Smith.

UPDATE - JANUARY 30, 2005

1840 Census
David Carson Union, Montgomery, Indiana (20001-00001) age 20-30 <1810-1820>
IS THIS A SON OF DAVID CARSON AND MARGARET ELLIS?
James Carson Franklin, Montgomery, Indiana (00210001-02100001) age 50-60 <1780-1790>
IS THIS A BROTHER OF DAVID CARSON WHO M. MARGARET ELLIS?
 

UPDATE - JANUARY 28, 2006

I just received an email from another Carson researcher (George) who is a descendant of the David Carson who married Mary Burke 1794 in Washington, TN.  He sent the following information:

I copied selected pages of "A Schedule of the Whole Number of Persons within the County of Washington in the Territory of the United States of America South of the River Ohio on the last Saturday in July, 1791" , the census of Washington County ordered by Governor William Blount. In Captain Depew's Company, we find David Carson (50 acres), David Carson Jr (0 acres), David Carson Sr. (0 acres), and Little David Carson (250 acres - maybe little, but not insignificant). Also, Robert Carson, Sr. and Robert Carson, Jr.   Other censuses from that period include Williams, Johns, Moses, and Andrews.   I have not been able to identify which of the Davids is my ancestor. I do know that the David who married Marey Burke in 1794 is my ancestor. His son Milton is my line. Also, I have not been able to figure out the connections between David and the other Carsons. David and Marey (or Mary) moved to Blount County sometime prior to 1800 (there is a David Carson in Blount County in the 1800 census). There was a sheriff of Blount County about then named John Burke. I have speculated that he might be Mary's father, but I have no evidence to show that he is. David and Mary moved to Cleveland, TN (the name of the county escapes me just now - maybe Bradley) at some point. They still have descendants living there, although their names are not Carson. In addition to the son Milton, they had a son Joseph and a son Robert, and a daughter Nancy.

So now we know there were TWO Robert Carsons and FOUR David Carsons in Washington, TN in 1791.  We can rule out the one who married Mary Burke being the same one who married Margaret Ellis.  However, depending on the birth years of these Davids, one of them may be "our" David.  I am waiting to hear back from George because I asked him to give me his David's birth year, etc.

UPDATE: I found this David's estimated birth year.  It was 1772.  I would guess that "little David" was him (he married Mary Burke).  In 1791 he would have been age 19 - a good reason to apply the nickname "little".  In 1791 our David would have been about age 25.  He was probably not David Sr. but he could have been David Jr. or the other David.

I also found these will abstracts and other document abstracts for Washington, TN and elsewhere....still trying to figure out who these Carsons were.  If you know, please contact Sandra.

Genealogical Records: Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s
Listed in:  Tennessee Soldiers in the Revolution    
Page number:  43
Will Abstracts of Washington Co, TN
William Carson, Mar. 10, 1790
Wife, Margaret, oldest daughter Jennet, d. Mary, oldest son William, s. John
David Carson, John Strain, executors
May Sessions, 1790
NOTE: James Andrews, the possible grand-uncle of Christianna Andrews (she married our David Carson's son John) married Jean STRAIN 1761 in Dauphin, PA.  There may be a connection to John Strain, one of the executors of the will.  On the LDS web site I found a John Strain born about 1762 of Lancaster, PA.  He died about 1824 in Madison Twp, Highland Co, Ohio.  This could be the same John Strain on the will. 

UPDATE:  According to the LDS web site and the book "Pennsylvania Genealogies, Ainsworth and Andrews", Jean Strain, born 1731 in W. Hanover, Dauphin, PA, was the daughter of John Strain of Hanover Twp, Dauphin, PA.  The John Strain who was an executor on the will of William Carson could have been her nephew.  This is an indication that William Carson in the above will was one of the Carsons who were in Dauphin, PA, formed from Lancaster, PA.  In 1756 a William Carson was on the Dauphin, PA Tax list.  He is presumed to be the son of John Linn Carson whose will was written in 1804 (see below).  So who was the William Carson whose will was written in 1790?  He had to be connected to John Linn Carson in some way.  The connections between the Andrews family, and the fact that he was in Greene/Washington, TN at the same time as John Linn Carson's other children...all of this points in that direction.  BUT WHO WAS HE?

The John Strain listed as an executor on the will of William Carson in 1790 Washington, TN could be one of several John Strains related to Jean Strain.  Her brother John had a son John born about 1762.

UPDATE:  The John Strain who was on the will of William Carson (above) was probably the following John Strain.  He was born in Orange, NC, a location were several Carsons were also living.  See Message board postings below.

LDS WEB SITE:
John STRAIN
Born: 21 Feb 1759 Place: , Orange, North Carolina
Died: 21 Mar 1840 Place: , Wash., Tennesse
Married: 20 Dec 1787 Place: Washington Co, Tennessee
Spouse: Isabella ALLISON
Born: 1767 Place: Of, Washington Co, Tennesee
Died: 10 Jan 1847 Place: , Washington, Tennessee
Married: 20 Dec 1787 Place: Washington Co, Tennessee
Father: Robert ALLISON
Mother: Ann Mrs ALLISON

A William Carson married Margaret McCord May 1, 1760 in Dauphin, PA and that's where John Linn Carson was. Some of John's kids went to Washington, TN, so I think this William was closely related to him. John Linn Carson had a son named William but very little research has been done on him. There was another William Carson who wrote a will in 1804 in Washington, TN (see below). He named wife Polly and one of the executors was David Wilson. John Linn Carson's daughter Sarah married James Wilson who could have been related to David Wilson, so this William was probably the son of John Linn Carson.

The other William Carson leaving the will in 1790 and naming wife Margaret (nee McCord) is unknown. On the McCord family web site it indicates that some sons of David Carson married daughters of James McCord. So this unknown William may have been a son of one of the FOUR David Carsons who were in Washington, TN in 1791. Now to figure out who these David Carsons were - that's the problem. They were "little" David Carson, David Carson, David Carson Sr. and David Carson Jr. The "little" David Carson was probably the one who married Mary Burke in 1794. He was born 1772 so he would have been age 19 in 1791. David Carson Sr. was probably too old to be our David who would have been age 25 in 1791. But our David could have been one of the other two Davids. However, this conflicts with the will of Henry Carson in 1802 Hamilton, OH.

In 1791 Washington, TN there was also a Robert Carson Jr. and a Robert Carson Sr. In 1756 Dauphin, PA there was a Robert Carson along with William Carson and John Carson (presumed to be John Linn Carson). John owned 300 acres and William and Robert only owned 30 acres, indicating that they were probably quite a bit younger than John.

I do not show that John Linn Carson had a son named Robert, however, some research shows that Alexander Harvey Carson and Sarah had a son named Robert James Carson who m. Elizabeth Ann Reed. Very little is known about him. The Robert in 1756 Dauphin, PA and in 1791 Washington, TN could be him or his descendants.

Other research that I did a long time ago indicates that a Robert Carson m. Elizabeth Moore Mar 2, 1769 in PA. She was the daughter of Robert Moore who died 1808 in Greene, TN. Elizabeth Moore was a cousin of Anthony Moore from Northampton, PA who was one of the first settlers of Greene, TN. If I can learn more about this Robert Carson it may provide some leads.  If you have information on this Robert Carson please contact Sandra.

A William Carson was a signator on the Petition for the State of Franklin, TN in 1787.  This William could have been one of the William Carsons who left a will in Greene, TN.  Two of the first settlers of Greene, TN were John and Robert Carson.  A Robert Carson was listed on the 1783 Rev. War Patriots list of Greene, TN.  It indicates that he was from Greenbrier River near Englishes Ferry in Virginia (See Below), he left Greene, TN and went to Jefferson, TN and then to Warren, TN.   A Robert Carson was on the 1791 Tax List of Greene, TN.  Whether he was the same one on the 1791 Tax List of Washington, TN is unknown. David Carson who married Elizabeth Dysart was in Washington, VA but as far as I can tell, he had no close relatives named Robert. 

UPDATE #2:  The following message board postings were found in reference to the above William:

MESSAGE BOARDS:
I am looking for information on a William Carson and Margaret of Orange County, North Carolina. They were reported to be in Orange County, NC around 1780. Moses Carson was also in Orange County, NC about that time. He moved to Washington County, Tennessee. A William Carson died in Washington County, Tennessee in 1790. He left a will and noted his wife, Margaret, without identifing her maiden surname. I think I may be connected to these Carsons but need more prove..
REPLY:
You stated your ancestors were from Orange Co., NC, but could they have been from Person, Caswell Cos. NC. We have a deed abstract Deed Book-A p. 566, Caswell Co. David Carson to Samuel Woods 17 Sept. 1781 also mentions land adjoins William Carson and this deed is also signed by Sarah Carson who is probably wife of David. William Woods a brother of our ancestor John also went to Washington Co., Tn. about 1780 or the end of the Rev. War, Then migrated to Blount Co., Tn, Then to Indiana and a correspondent from this line who is not on the internet said that the Carsons also migrated to Indiana with this Woods family and the Strain family.
[My Note: A Margaret Woods married a Robert Carson in Dauphin, PA Oct. 31, 1755.  William Carson married Margaret McCord in Dauphin, PA May 1, 1760.  It looks like they may have been brothers.  Apparently, they went to Buncombe and/or Orange, NC before going to Washington/Greene, PA]
REPLY:
Moses Carson moved from Orange County, NC to Washington County, Tn. It is speculated that William Carson and Margaret might have also migrated to Washington County, Tn. The executors of William Carson's will of 1790 were David Carson and John Strain. David Carson purchased land next to John Strain's land.  The son William Carson migrated to Blount County, Tn. There is contraversy of the wife of son John Carson. Some believe Nancy Jane Blackburn. Others believe Sally Estes. Other Carsons did migrate to Indiana.

** Robert Carson, Private, VA Militia , $30.00 Annual Allowance, $90.00 Amount Received, July 25, 1834 Pension Started, Age 81, Warren Co, TN Pension List. was born 20 Nov 1753 on Greenbrier River in VA near Englishes Ferry, lived in Washington Co VA at enlistment & in 1782 moved to Greene Co TN for 1 year, then to Jefferson Co TN for 14 years [1783-1797], then to Blount Co, TN for 12 yrs [1797-1809], then to Warren Co, TN [ca1809?] & applied there 8 Jul 1834. (RW Pension File S3207)

Interesting Side Note: Samuel Meeks, father of Mary Meek who married Joseph Beedle, was born 1732 in Greenbrier, Virginia.

PAXTANG MARRIAGES BY JOHN ROAN
May 1 1760 - Wm. Carson and Margaret McCord

RETURN OF PAXTANG, DAUPHIN, PA - 1756
William Carson 50 acres - son of John Linn Carson? if he owned property in 1756 chances are he was born before 1736 - does this make sense?  Other researchers indicate John Linn Carson was born in 1747 - too young to be the father of this William.  Who was this William?
John Cashon (Carson?) 50 acres
John Carson 300 acres
Robert Carson 30 acres

Genealogical Records: Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s
Listed in: Tennessee Soldiers in the Revolution
Page number: 52
Tennessee Soldiers in the Revolution, Abstracts of Wills of Washington County, Page 52
Will of William Carson, Jan. 21, 1804. Wife Polly, ch: Susanna, Ann, Robert, William, Polly.
"When William comes of age".
Wife Polly Carson, David Wilson and Samuel Davis, Execs.
NOTE: John Linn Carson's daughter Sarah married David WILSON about 1750 probably in Lancaster, PA.  He could be connected to David Wilson, one of the executors of the will.  This William was possibly the son of John Linn Carson. 

Genealogical Records: Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s
Listed in: Records of Commissions of Officers, 1796-1815
Page number: 122
Robert Carson, Capt. 2nd Regiment, (45th)..........Apr 17, 1811

Genealogical Records: Early Tennessee Settlers, 1700s-1900s
Listed in: Records of Commissions of Officers, 1796-1815
Page number: 19
TENNESSEE MILITIA RECORDS
Jefferson Co, TN Regiments Commissioned
Adam Carson, Ensign, Oct. 10, 1796
Robert Carson, Captain, Oct. 10, 1796

OTHER RECORDS FOUND - Please help me identify these:

Index to North Carolina Wills, 1665-1900, Surnames, C - D, Page 85
Abel Carson, 1816, AR
Alexander Carson, 1791
Andrew Carson, 1791
David Carson, 1799
James Carson, c1773
James Carson, c1774
John Carson, 1819
John Carson, 1816
John Carson, 1790
John Carson, 1789
Margaret Carson, 1802
Robert Carson, 1798
Thomas Carson, c1804
Wililam Carson, 1759
Wiliam Carson, 1801

David Carson found in:
Genealogical Records: Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850
Date: Dec 9, 1799
Record ID: 1507
Description: Witness
Bond Date: Dec 9, 1799
Remarks: Bride is of age and is the daughter of William Poage. Groom is the son of Samuel Carson, who consents and states that Robert was of age last spring.

David Carson found in:
Genealogical Records: Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850
Date: Jun 17, 1770
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Record ID: 34069
Description: Witness
Book Page: 16-356
Property: 128 acres in Beverley Manor; John Thompson's line; corner Robert Hunter, now John Thompson; corner Anthony Black, a cabin by the road between John Hunter's and his son, Samuel Hunter's.
Remarks: 40 pence. Property conveyed to grantor by Robert Brookes, conveyed by Beverley, 26 Nov 1751.

Land Records: 1790-1907
Document number: 6884 Description number: 1
Number of acres: 40.0000 Accession number: OH1210__.256
Patentee Surname: Carson Patentee given name: David Carson
State name: Ohio
Volume: 1210 Page number: 256
Land office: Chillicothe Aliquot part reference: NWNE
Section number: 10
Township: 4 North Range: 21 West
Meridian or special survey area: Ohio River Survey
Title transfer authority: Sale-Cash Entries
Combined signature date: Jul. 28, 1838
Multiple patentees: N Multiple warrantees: N
Signature: Y Canceled document: N Subsurface rights reserved: N
Metes and bounds: N Fractional section: N

David Carson found in:
Marriage Index: IL, IN, KY, OH, TN 1720-1926
Spouse: Jane Gillespy
Marriage Date: Oct 9, 1827
Location: Blount Co., Tennessee

David Carson found in:
Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV 1728-1850
Spouse: Mary Debusk
Marriage Date: Jan 29, 1804
Location: Washington Co., Virginia
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT
Microfilm: 0034389

David Carson found in:
Marriage Index: Selected Counties of Ohio, 1789-1850
Married: Sep 02, 1837 in: Hamilton Co., OH
Spouse: McGee, Margaret
Gender: M More: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT, Film #s 0344451-0344463.

David Woodson Carson found in:
Military Records: Virginia in the Revolution and War of 1812
Listed in: Revolutionary War Records
Page number: 304

Ohio, 1787-1840 Land and Tax Records
Listed in: Early Ohio Settlers: Southwestern OH, 1800-1840
Page number: 51
Aaron Carson, 1818, Miami
Adam Carson, 1812, Butler
Benjamin Carson, 1818, Miami
David Carson, 1807, Dearborn, Indiana
Elijah Carson, 1816, Franklin, Indiana
John Carson Jr, 1828, Franklin, Indiana
John Carson, 1814, Delaware
John Carson, 1813, Franklin, Indiana
John Carson, 1801, Hamilton
John Carson, 1813, Montgomery
Joseph L. Carson, 1807, Warren
Joseph L. Carson, 1813, Warren
Robert Carson, 1806, Hamilton
Thomas Carson Jr., 1816, Franklin, Indiana
Thomas Carson, 1817, Montgomery

David Carson found in:
Southeastern Pennsylvania, 1680-1800 Birth Index
Relationship: Father
Child: ??? Carson
Birth/Baptism Date: Jun 1771
Date Comment: Baptism
Location: Forks of the Brandywine Presbyterian Church
County: Chester
State: Pennsylvania
Comment: Son
Father: David Carson
Mother: Mrs. ??? Carson

David Carson found in:
Southeastern Pennsylvania, 1680-1800 Birth Index
Relationship: Father
Child: James Baty Carson
Birth/Baptism Date: Jun 1768
Date Comment: Baptism
Location: Forks of the Brandywine Presbyterian Church
County: Chester
State: Pennsylvania
Father: David Carson
Mother: Mrs. ??? Carson

David Carson found in:
Southeastern Pennsylvania, 1680-1800 Birth Index
Relationship: Father
Child: Mary Carson
Birth/Baptism Date: 16 May 1756
Date Comment: Baptism
Source: Personal register of Rev. John Cuthbertson
County: Lancaster
State: Pennsylvania
Father: David Carson
Mother: Mrs. ??? Carson

David Carson found in:
Southeastern Pennsylvania, 1680-1800 Birth Index
Relationship: Father
Child: Margaret Carson
Birth/Baptism Date: 4 Aug 1754
Date Comment: Baptism
Source: Personal register of Rev. John Cuthbertson
County: Lancaster
State: Pennsylvania
Father: David Carson
Mother: Mrs. ??? Carson

David Carson found in:
US - Census Index (1800)
Township: Green Castle
County: Fayette
State: Pennsylvania
Roll: 38 Page: 888 Image: 297.00

David Carson found in:
US - Census Index (1800)
Township: Tyrone
County: Cumberland
State: Pennsylvania
Roll: 38 Page: 86 Image: 44.00

David Carson found in:
US - Census Index (1800)
Township: Brandywine
County: Chester
State: Pennsylvania
Roll: 36 Page: 821 Image: 236.00

Tennessee Cousins, Page 40
BURKE, ARTHUR to MARY ANDERSON, Feb. 25,1788
BURKE, ELIRU to MARY GARRETT, September 23rd, 1794.
BURKE, MARY to DAVID CARSON, April 26, 1794.
BURK, WILLIAM to ELIZABETH THOMPSON, Jan 22, 1794.
CARSON, ANDREW to ELIZABETH HANNAH, Nov. 11 1790.
CARSON, JANET, to ANDREW GAMBLE, March 5th  1793.
CARSON, MARY to JOHN McCORD, December 6th, 1796.
CARSON, ROBERT to JANE RITCHIE, July 20th, 1795.
CARSON, RUTH to LEWIS WHITE, September 25th 1799.
CARSON, SAMUEL to REBECCA BRANDON, May 10, 1790.
CARSON, SARAH to JAMES RITCHIE, February 8  1794.
CARSON, SUSANNAH to DAVID McCORD, May 27th  1792.

MISCELLANEOUS NOTES ON PENNSYLVANIA CARSON FAMILIES

PA Carsons before 1775
Posted by: Josette Maxwell (ID *****6404) Date: June 07, 2002 at 04:27:24
of 3932
This covers Philadelphia and Cumberland Ct.
CUMBERLAND (townships of Adams/York that became Cumberland/Franklin)
1. John Carson (Tyrone Twp)
d. 1789 (probate May 12, l789; written Aug 3, l788
m. Margaret ???
o John Carson identified as pew holder Big
Spring Presby Ch 1786
CDR: (in will)
1. James Carson
b 1750 .
o there is a James Carson age 29
in 1789 listed as a communicant
in the Big Spring Presby Church
different district than rest of
Carsons
o Mary Carson age 31 in 1789 is
listed below him in same
district along with janet Carson
age 9
2. William Carson
3. Jean Carson
4. Jennet Carson
5. Martha Carson
6. Margaret Carson
o Son-in-law Archibald London in will where Jean, Jennet and Margaret are identified with surname Carson so probably husband
of Martha

2. James Forster Carson
m. Sarah Reyanth Apr 12, 1764 Cumberland Ct.
3. John Carson
d 1800 (will probated May 6, l800)
o the following are established as siblings by will of John Carson probated Aug 7, l820
in Cumberland Ct. and in will of father
o will of Elisha Hamill Chester Ct. Probated 1803, Sep 3, identifies a John Carson as
his son-in-law and John's daughter Priscilla when she is 18

CDR: (will of father)
1. Elisha Carson
b. 1769
m. 1st Margaret Eager Mar 29, 1791
2nd ?? Shannon
o listed as a communicant in Big Spring Presby Ch, age 20
2. John Carson
3. Hannah Carson
b. 1774
d. 1844 Apr 5 (buried Big Spring Presby Church)
m,. Never married
4. Ruth Carson
m. James Ralston
5. Priscilla Carson
b. 1791
d. 1864 (buried Big Spring Presby Church)
m. Never married
6. Martha Carson
7. Elizabeth Carson

4. Priscella Carson
b. 1754
o listed as a communicant in Big Spring Presby Ch, age 35; this entry followed by
listing for Elisha age 20, John age 18 and Hannah age 16. Priscilla cannot be mother of Elisha. Quite possibly this is the second wife
of John above.
o Hannah, Elisha, Priscilla, and John are established as siblings by will of John Carson
probated Aug 7, l820 in Cumberland Ct.
- there is a Priscella Carson b. 1791 died 1864 buried at Big Spring Presby Church,
probably daughter of John Carson above and Priscilla ???
- there is a Hannah Carson b. 1774 died 1844 buried Big Springs Presby Church
5. David Carson
o on Tax List Lurgan Twp 17516. Adam Carson
o on Tax List Hamilton Twp 1752

MISC RECORDS:
o Thomas Aspy will probated Cumberland Ct. PA 1755 states James Carson is his son-in-law

PHILADELPHIA

1. John Carson
d 1756 Jun 28
o death record of Philadelphia Church Records 1709-1760
2. Samuel Carson (Merchant)
d. 1778 (probated Dec 23, 1778; written May 4, 1771)
o executor are nephews Samuel and Robert Carson; mentions brother
Andrew Carson in Strabane Ireland
o executor of will of Seth Drummond written Nov 24, 1739; mentioned as
friend in a number of wills
3. Robert Carson
d. 1759 Sep 15
o record of Philadelphia, Penn Church Records 1709-1750
o states father's name is Robert
4. Andrew Carson
o witness of will of George McCall written Jul 19, 1754
5. William Carson (peruke maker)
o executor of estates of John Blackwood 1762; James Godfrey 1763
6. William Carson (tavern keeper)
d. 1786 (will probated Mar 21, l786; written Feb 23, 1786) m. Mary ??
o will refers to son-in-law Christian Febiger and James O'Hara
CDR: (in will)
1 John Carson
2. James Carson
3. Mary Carson
4. Elizabeth Carson

MISC RECORDS:

o will of George Cunningham (peruke maker) refers to niece Margaret Carson,
will written Jun 23, 1758

o will of Margaret Duncan probated 1802 mentions Sarah Carson, manuta maker
daughter of James Carson, taylor, deceased

o marriage records 1st Presby Church Philadelphia:

Margaret Carson m. James Kelly Aug 6, 1736
Alexander Carson m. Grace Middleton Oct 24, l741
John Miller Carson m. Elizabeth Worel Apr 17, 1788

o marriage records 2nd Presby Church Philadelphia

David Carson m. Elizabeth Beathhy Mar 30, 1784
Rachel (Rebecca) Carson m. Alexander Blair Nov 29, 1774
Andrew Carson m. Jane Hall Mar 1, 1769
Elizabeth Carson m. Christian Ferbecker Aug 14, 1777

o marriage records 3rd Presby Church Philadelphia

David Carson m. Sarah Wood Aug 19, 1785

o St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church Philadelphia marriage records

William Carson and Mary Hamilton Mar 21, 1770
John Henry Carson m. Martha Fish Dec 3, 1770
James Carson m. Mary McCallmeck Jul 21 1775
Sarah Carson m. Thomas Bedotha May 2, 1776
Sarah Carson m. Andrew Nelson May 19, 1777
Agnesa Carson m. James Hopkins Jan 1, 1784

NORTHUMBERLAND, PA 1775 TAXABLES
PARTIAL LIST
Joseph Carson, John Cheney, Michael Campbell, David Carson, Abraham Carr, David Chambers,
Johnson Cheney, Philip Davis, David Davis, William Davis,
Ephraim Fowler, John Freeman, William Forster,
John Gillespie, John Gilliland, Alexander Gibson, John Gray, Robert
Galbraith, Bertram Galbraith, John Gray, George Hamilton, Hugh Hamilton,
William Hannah, George Irwin, Richard Irwin, Francis Irwin, Archibald Irwin,
George Irwin, Matthew Irwin, John Irwin, Benjamin Jones,
Daniel Kelley, David Kennedy, Robert King, William Layton, Robert Love,
Adam Mann, John McFadden, William Murdock, Samuel Mann, William
McKim, Robert Martin, Peter Martin, John Martin, James Neely, Thomas Orr, Joseph Ogden,
William A. Patterson, William Patterson, Ellis Reed, John Richey, Richey &
Company, William Reed

UNKNOWN CARSON NOTES

MOSES CARSON, b. about 1710, married Sarah Hickman.

GEORGE DABANN CARSON [Scott Carson note; Someone wrote, 1749 as birthdate.]

SAMUEL T. CARSON, 1768-1850 (or 1858). m. 1803 (by Parson Henderson) Anne Jarnagin 1778-1833. son of WILLIAM CARSON, 1740-1799.  WHICH WILLIAM CARSON IS THIS?

Washington and Greene Counties in Tennessee was a common stopping place for some pioneers from Pennsylvania, Maryland, North Carolina and Virginia on their way to other locations as roads were built and land became available.  They were both located near the Cumberland Gap and the Wilderness Road leading into Kentucky. 

From early tax lists of Greene County, TN we see that several Carson families were there as early as 1783, along with four Veatch families, Thomas Duval, and others.  In 1787/1788 Greene Co, TN, the Veatches were listed along with Abijah and Thomas Fowler.  Capt. Nathan Ellis, father of Margaret Ellis, had a cousin named Nathan Veatch.  It is not known if this was the same Nathan Veatch who was in Greene Co, TN, but it is likely.  The Veatch family was from Prince Georges, Maryland, the same location that Benjamin Fowler's family was from.  Benjamin Fowler was the father of Rebecca Fowler who married Henry Carson 1828 in Butler, Ohio.  Henry was the son of David Carson and Margaret Ellis.

It is not known which Thomas Fowler was in Greene Co, TN, but our Benjamin Fowler had several relatives named Thomas and some of them went on to Madison, KY.

1783 Greene, TN Tax List
Thomas Duval
James Eaton
John Carson
Robert Carson
John Cannon
John Temple
William Temple
Major Temple
Amos Veatch
Jeremiah Veatch
Josiah Veatch
Nathan Veatch
Joseph Walker
Daniel Creamer
John Price
Barnett Brandon (see comments above)
Garrett Brandon (see comments above)
Thomas Brandon (see comments above)
Thomas Richey
Gideon Richey
James Burk (see narrative below)

1787/1788 Greene, TN Tax List
Abijah Fowler
Thomas Fowler
Elias Veach
James Veach
Nathan Veach
Jeremiah Meeks
John Gilliland
Michel Barnet

In 1791 and 1792 we find David Carson, John Carson and John Carson Jr. on the Greene, TN Tax List.  Also on the list were John and Samuel Ellis.  Margaret Ellis who married David Carson had an uncle named Samuel who may have passed through this region of TN on his way to KY to make the crossing into Brown, OH with his brother Nathan (Margaret's father).  NOTE: Nathan Veatch was the first cousin of Nathan and Samuel Ellis.

We know that Moses Carson, son of John Linn Carson and Sarah Dickey, was in Washington Co, TN possibly as early as 1774.  Also, Richard Carson, the brother of Moses, was in Washington Co, TN.  The David and John Carson on the Greene Co, TN tax list may have been related to them.  John Linn Carson had a son named John and he had a son named John, so these may be John and John Carson Jr. 

Who was the Robert Carson on the Greene, TN 1783 Tax List?

William Carson and Eleanor McDuff had a son Robert who went to Madison, KY.  However, his first known child (Samuel) was supposedly born in PA in 1789.  I have not seen verification of this birth place, so I don't know if it's correct.  He was in Madison, KY by 1792.  It is possible that the Robert Carson on the 1783 Greene, TN tax list was this Robert.  It is also possible that it was a different Robert.  A will for a Robert Carson dated 1818 in Champaign, OH was located.  It is not known who this Robert was (see update).  Another Robert Carson was living near Hanson Love in Sycamore, Hamilton, OH in 1820, age 45+.  Some databases show a son named Robert James Carson for Alexander Harvey Carson (b. 1685).  He apparently married Elizabeth Ann Reed, but no information has been obtained about him.  He may have been the one in Greene, TN in 1783.  One database indicates that he had a son John Robert Carson who married Mary Richards and they had a son John Eli Carson born ca. 1771.  None of this has been verified.

UPDATE: See GENFORUM message communication above.

UPDATE:   Another researcher just sent me some information about the Robert Carson who was in Greene Co, TN.  He was the same Robert Carson who was in Champaign, OH in 1820.  His daughter Nancy married James Carson, so she was not the Nancy Carson who married Benjamin Nicholas Fowler.  Here is the information she sent:

Robert CARSON (Sr.)/Nancy (s/o?)
by 1775 or before b. (son b. by 1790)
1812 son, Robert CARSON, m. Polly CARSON
in Green Co. TENN
1813 daughter, Nancy CARSON m. James CARSON
in Green Co. TENN
1820 Prob Champaign Co. OH Jackson Twp., both age 45+
1823 sold land Champaign Co. Oh to James DARNALL*
ca. 1823 died
1823 09 APR dau, Jane m. Samuel STOUT Champaign Co. OH
by 1823 daughter, Peggy CARSON, m. ____ HOUSTON/HUSTIN
18-- Wash. Co. TENN deed, lived next to Samuel HOUSTON or HUSTIN
Note: His 8 children listed in his will:
Ambrose CARSON; James CARSON; Peggy HUSTON; Robert CARSON; Nancy CARSON; Polly CARSON; Jinny CARSON; Betsey CARSON.
Note: Widow's name not given in will, but is in other estate papers.
* Ambrose CARSON and Esther also mentions land sold to James DARNALL.
Note: 1830 Adams Co. OH, Wayne Twp., age 50-60 Nancy could  be Robert's widow, as she is same age.

1830 census
Nancy Carson Wayne, Adams, Ohio (01101-01010101) age 50-60 <1770-1780> - Page 61

See below for more notes about Adams County, Ohio

Who was the David Carson on the Greene, TN 1791-1792Tax List?

John Linn Carson did not have a known son named David or Henry.  Moses Carson did not have a known son named David.  I don't know if Richard Carson had a descendant named David.  His son Richard Jr. went to Delaware Co, Ohio.  David Carson and Elizabeth Dysart had a son David who married Cynthia Meek, but as far as I can tell they were not in Tennessee during that time period. 

It is entirely possible that this unknown David Carson was the one who married Margaret Ellis.  Whoever it was, he was probably closely related to the other Carsons in that vicinity. 

UPDATE:   Because of the information sent to me and noted in the update above (that Robert Carson of Champaign, OH was the Robert who was in Greene, TN) it is probable that one of the David Carsons who was in Greene, TN was closely related to this Robert.  Two of Robert's children married other Carsons:  Robert Jr. married Polly Carson 1812 in Greene, TN; Nancy married James Carson 1813 in Greene, TN.  The David Carson who married Mary Burke April 26, 1794 in Greene, TN is reported by some researchers to have had a son named James.  It is possible this James was the one who married Nancy, the daughter of Robert.  If James was born about 1795, he would be age 18 in the year 1813, so this possibility makes sense.

GREENE, TN TAX LIST
Taxables of Captain Robert Campbell's Company
1791 and 1792
David Carson 1 white 1791; 100 acres 1792, 1 white
John Carson 600 acres 1791, 1white; 500 acres 1792, 1 white
John Carson Jr. 1 white 1791, 1 white 1792
John Ellis 40-1; 40-1
Samuel Ellis 360-1; 360-1
James Galbreath
John Galbreath
Taxables of Captain Samuel Gragg's Company
1791 and 1792
Michel Barnet
Thos Love
Jos Veach
James Veach
Elias Veach
Nathan Veach

Notice the name Nathan Veatch on the list above.  He was the nephew of Mary Veatch, mother of Margaret Ellis.  He was on the Petition for a new state in Fayette/Washington, PA in about the year 1780 (see below).  Also in Greene, TN in 1791-1792 were Samuel and John Ellis.  Samuel is believed to be the brother of Nathan Ellis.  David Carson was on the list with them in the same company along with John Carson and John Carson Jr.  This John and John Jr. may have been the brother and nephew of Moses Carson.  Since Moses was the son of John Linn Carson, I believe this David was closely related to him.  Samuel Ellis settled in Brown Co, OH along with Nathan Ellis.  Nathan Veatch died in Knox Co, Ohio. (see below about Joseph Walker)

A Thomas Fowler and Thomas Fowler Jr. were on the 1796 Tax List of Captain Samuel Gragg's Company.  On that same tax list was Nathan Veatch.  Since they were both from Prince Georges, MD and some of their descendants intermarried, it is possible that this Thomas and Thomas Fowler Jr. were the sons of Jeremiah Fowler and Drucilla Isaac.  Some of their sons went to Madison, KY by 1800 along with Benjamin Fowler and Lindsey Carson.   It is entirely likely that they went through Greene Co, TN on their way north into Kentucky.

Greene Co, TN Tax List
List of Taxables in Captain Samuel Gragg's
Company for 1796
Michal Barnet
Thomas Fowler
Thomas Fowler Sr
Phillip Love
Thomas Love
William Love
Amos Veach
Elias Veach
James Veach
Nathan Veach

After 1792, David, John and John Carson Jr. have disappeared from the tax rolls, so it assumed they either died or moved elsewhere.  However, a Robert and William Carson were on the 1797 tax list.  It is likely they were related to the other Carsons in that vicinity.  Robert Carson, son of William Carson and Eleanor McDuff, went to Madison Co, KY and it is possible that he stopped in Greene Co, TN before going there.  His first known son to have been born in Madison, KY was George Robinson Carson born about 1797.  Robert Carson died 1837 in Seneca, Ohio.  Robert was the brother of Lindsey Carson (father of Kit Carson). 

It is not known who the William Carson was on the same tax list.  He was listed with no property, so he may have been quite young, but he was probably born before 1777.  He may have been William, the son of Lindsey Carson and half-brother of Kit Carson.  Or he may have been an unknown son of Robert.

Greene, TN Tax Lists
Taxables of Captain John Gibson's Company
for the year 1797
Barnabas Brumley, Chuckey River
John Brumley, Chuckey River
Robert Carson, Hollys Creek
William Carson

If the unknown David Carson on the 1791-92 Greene, TN Tax List was the one who married Margaret Ellis, then it is a possible connection between him and the descendants of Alexander Harvey Carson.  Since David was listed on the same Tax List with John and John Jr, it is likely he was closely related to them. 

Who were the John Carson and John Carson Jr. on the 1791-1792 Greene, TN Tax List?

Possibly, these were the son and grandson of Moses Carson.  If David Carson was closely related to Moses, he may have been a cousin.  Looking at the known sons of John Linn Carson, I do not find a David listed, however there are several males in this family for whom I have not found complete descendant information, including Isaac, Joseph, Samuel and Richard.

This David Carson may be the one referred to in the narrative below.  Several of his children married in to the McCord family.

If you know of a David Carson who was closely related to John Linn Carson or the other Carsons of Greene and Washington, TN, please contact Sandra.

http://www.mccordfamilyassn.com/southwes.htm
Daughters of James McCord in Tennessee's first county, Washington County, married sons of David Carson, one of the Scotch-Irish frontier fighters at The Battle of Kings Mountain, South Carolina in the American Revolution, and he was a cousin of the famous Kit Carson of western fame. James McCord's wife is believed to have been a Carson.  (My note:  This David may be the one who married Margaret Ellis.  He married Mary Burke Apr 21, 1794 in Washington, TN - was Margaret Ellis his 2nd wife?  This David had a son James with Mary Burke.  He was b. 1797 in TN and he m. Martha McCord.  They had a son Ambrose McCord Carson who m. Nancy Inlow Tudor 1847 in Fayette, OH.  However, this James would not be the same one who was in 1840 Fountain, IN because he was in Fayette, OH in 1840 and 1850.) 

Notice in the marriage records below that a David McCord married Susannah Carson, daughter of Moses Carson.  An unknown Mary Carson married John McCord.  She may have also been the daughter of Moses, or she could have been the daughter of David.  In any event, if the narrative above is correct, and some of David Carson's children married into the McCord family and a daughter of Moses Carson also married into the McCord family, the chances are good that David was closely related to Moses.  I can find no son of John Linn Carson named David or Henry (our David;s probable father), so I don't know if he was a brother to Moses. 

WASHINGTON, TN MARRIAGES
Carson, Andrew -- Hannah, Elizabeth - 11 Nov 1790
Carson, David -- Burke, Marey - 26 Apr 1794
Carson, Gannat (Jannet?) -- Gamble, Andrew - 5 Mar 1793
Carson, Robert -- Ritchey, Jane - 20 Jul 1795
Carson, Ruth -- White, Lewis - 25 Sep 1799
Carson, Samuel -- Brandon, Rebekah - 10 May 1790
Carson, Sarah -- Ritchey, James - 28 Feb 1794
McCord, David -- Carson, Susana - 27 May 1792 (Susanna was d/o Moses Carson)
McCord, Elizabeth -- Richey, David - 29 Jan 1796
McCord, Jane -- Hunter, James - 27 Feb 1794
McCord, John -- Carson, Mary - 06 Dec 1796

The Lost State of Franklin

Another good resource for individuals who lived in or near Greene and Washington, TN is the Petition for A State of Franklin.  The following are familiar names on this petition...

"The Lost State of Franklin" - December, 1787
Petition of the Inhabitants of the Western Country
http://z1.adserver.com/w/cp.x;rid=1218;tid=5;ev=1;dt=3;ac=60;c=651;
John Cosson (Carson?)
William Hannah
Benn Brumley
Henry Brumly
Js. Huston
John Huston
Thomas Bromley
John Galbreath
William Carson

The John Carson on the list is presumed to be the same one who was on the Greene, TN 1791-1792 Tax List with David Carson.  The William Carson is presumed to be the brother of Moses Carson.  Recall, some children of David and Moses Carson married children of James McCord.

James McCord and the Lost State of Franklin....

After independence, North Carolina and Virginia surrendered their claims to the lands now making up the states of Tennessee and Kentucky, which then became the federal Southwest Territory in 1790 under George Washington, America's first President. It was the counterpart of The Northwest Territory. Both were established in 1790 under George Washington. After serving in the American Revolution, James McCord, earlier a prisoner of war in the French and Indian War, and who served in the American Revolution, was to become one of George Washington's first federal law enforcement officers in the Southwest Territory, one of the two Federal Territories created in 1790 when Washington became the nation's first President. The Southwest Territory ran all the way to the Mississippi River from the mountains of North Carolina and Virginia. It covered what is now Tennessee and Kentucky. James McCord as Constable McCord in The Southwest Territory had duties similar to that of a U.S. Marshal in the old West. James McCord was appointed to that position by Southwest Territorial Governor William Blount, signer of the U.S. Constitution. Governor Blount was sworn into office by one of the original U.S. Supreme Court Justices, James Iredell of North Carolina.

Later during the War of 1812, this James McCord was appointed by then Tennessee Governor John Sevier to be Justice of Peace in Franklin County, Tennessee. At that time Justices were a senior position in a frontier county and were appointees of the state Governors. In 1815, James McCord Sr. signed attesting to the War of 1812 service of one of the McCords. We have his signature on those official papers.
http://www.mccordfamilyassn.com/southwes.htm

In the early 1940's, Governor James McCord (Democrat), one of David McCord's descendants, was elected Governor of Tennessee after serving in the U.S. House of Representatives. This David McCord he descended from was the son of David of Derry, Pennsylvania, one of the first McCord settlers in America, coming in 1720. Many of this David's descendants live in Tennessee today.

It is believed that the David Carson who married Margaret Ellis was the son of Henry and Agnes Carson.  David was born 1766 in PA so Henry was probably born before 1745.  Henry died 1802 in Hamilton, OH.  It is possible that Henry was a close relative of the Carsons who went to Greene and Washington, TN.  He may have been an unknown son or grandson of Alexander Harvey Carson.  In 1790 he may have been in Mifflin, PA.  David may have gone to TN and then to OH along with relatives who were not his brothers, with Henry following to Ohio later.

Washington, TN Court Records

A couple of clues about David Carson can be found in the early court records of Washington Co, TN.... 

WASHINGTON COUNTY COURT RECORDS
1780-1965
http://cass.etsu.edu/archives/afindaid/a18g.html
Absalom Bedell, Samuel Thornton of the District of Washington; writ of dedimus potestatem issued to interrogate Daniel Roberts in case of Jonathan Williams vs. Thomas Gilbert; February 12, 1792.
William Pursley, James Reed, and David Carson of Washington County; subpeona issued for, case of John Christian vs. George House; May Term of Court, 1790.
Robert Grey, Robert Carson, and Smith Hunt (Washington County); subpeona; State vs. Mary Burris; August 12, 1820.
Moses Carson, Jr. vs. George W. Thompson (Hawkins County); fieri facias; January 12, 1825.

Clue #1 - An Absolom Bedell (also spelled Beedle or Beadle) was in Washington, TN in 1792.  Aaron Beedle who married Mary T. Carson, daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis, had a son named Absolom.  Of course, he was born too late to be this Absolom, but Aaron may have had a brother, grandfather or uncle named Absolom.  Further research will be done on this.  If Aaron Beedle's ancestors were in Washington, TN with a David Carson, this would be a very important clue.  Also, Aaron's mother was a Burke.  She may have been related to Mary Burke, David Carson's wife (possibly his first wife).

UPDATE: The following Genforum message was just located linking Absolom Bedell (Beedle) with Joseph Beedle, the father of Aaron Beedle.

GENFORUM
Posted by: Patricia Bedell Hansard Date: September 30, 2000 at 19:50:11
In Reply to: Edward Beedle, d 1692 Md. by Margaret Patterson Smith Keigler
I am trying to find information about Joseph Beedle m. ___Burke. They were the parents of an Absolom Beedle who I am hoping is the same person as my gggggg grandfather. I know they were associated with the area around Md. and also Washington Co. PA, Baltimore Co. MD, New Garden Delaware. A brother of this Absolom Beedle born to Joseph and ___Burke is the Joseph Beedle(b.1749) m. to Mary Meeks.

This is very good news because it places a member of this Beedle family in the same location as the Carsons of Greene and Washington, TN in the 1790's. 
If Absolom's brother Joseph was in that area also, this could be a connection between our David Carson and the Carsons who were in Greene and Washington, TN.

This Absolom Bedell/Beedle married Ruth Jackson and was a member of the Wrightsboro, Georgia Quakers.  Some of the Quakers from this group moved to Miami MM, Warren Co, Ohio because there was no slavery there.   Notice there were Carsons who were also members of this group.  If anyone has information about these Carsons, please contact Sandra.

You may be wondering how a Quaker in Georgia could be connected to the Carsons in Greene and Washington, TN, but don't forget the Washington County Court Record above.  This record places Absolom in Washington Co, TN in 1792. 

This index is made up of names taken from various sources, the main
ones being Hinshaw's American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. 5 and "The Story
of Wrightsboro, 1768-1964",
The story of the Quaker colony at Wrightsborough, near present day Thomson, Georgia,
Beddell, Absolom Ruth Jackson
Bedell, Richard
Carson, Elizabeth 1753 John Kelly/John & Esther
Carson, Esther 1765 John Williams/John & Esther
Carson, John Esther Stubbs
Carson, John 1759 Rachel/John & Esther
Carson, Mary 1753 Samuel Windslitt/John & Esther
Carson, Sarah 1763 John & Esther
Carson, Thomas

Clue #2 - David Carson is listed in a court case in 1790 along with a James Reed.  Recall the one database claiming that a son of Alexander Harvey Carson was Robert James Carson who married Elizabeth Ann Reed.  James could be her relative.

William Carson of Greene, TN - A Possible Conflict of Information

Just to further complicate things, I just found a record in my database for the William Carson who was on the 1787 Greene, TN Tax List.  He was born 1735 and died 1787 in Greene, TN.  He supposedly had a son named David.  This is the David who married Mary Burke.  "Our" David - the one who married Margaret Ellis, may have been the son of Henry Carson who died 1802 in Hamilton, OH.  

This information possibly conflicts with my theory that "our" David may have been the one in Greene, TN.  Further research will be done on David Carson who married Mary Burke.  However, I just received an email from another Carson-Burke researcher who said there was more than one David Carson in the vicinity of Greene & Washington, TN. 

If you have any information on David Carson and Mary Burke, please contact Sandra.

CARSONS, BEEDLES AND MCCORDS IN WASHINGTON CO, PA

From looking at census records in early PA, it appears that the Beedle/Bedell family and some of the McCord families were in Washington Co, PA along with several Carson families, some of whom were descendants of Alexander Harvey Carson.  Some of these families remained in PA longer than others.  Below, in the 1820 Federal Census of Fallowfield Twp, Washington, PA we find Thomas Carson and Mary Gibson and some of their children.  We also find William Carson and Mary Burgess and some of their children. Also in Fallowfield is a Joseph Beedle, age 26-45.  In Nottingham Twp. was a Mark McCord.  According to the Clan MacCord Web Site, Corporal Mark McCord was b. 1745. He served in the Revolutionary War. He lived in Dauphin and Philadelphia Co. Pennsylvania.

Another Beedle family (first name unreadable) was living a few houses away from Thomas and William Carson.  He was next to Joshua Fox whose son Ellis Fox married Mary Carson, daughter of William Carson and Mary Burgess.  Below the census information is some information about these families.  They moved to Rush Co, Indiana and were living near Joseph Linn Carson and Mary Leonard.

1820 census
Joseph Beedle Fallowfield, Washington, PA 1820 (000010-10010) age 26-45 - Image 3
SAME PAGE: Jno? Dickey (100010-00001) age 26-45
Jas Carson Fallowfield,Washington,PA 1820
John Carson Fallowfield,Washington,PA 1820 (010010-10010) age 26-45 - Image 7
Thos Carson Fallowfield,Washington,PA 1820 (200010-00010) age 26-45 <b. bef. 1775> - Image 1 (next to Wm. Carson)
Thos Carson Fallowfield,Washington,PA 1820 (010101-11001) age 45+ Image 7 - (m. Mary Gibson)
SAME PAGE: Wm. Gibson (age 45+) - Image 7
SAME PAGE: John Abbott (age 26-45) - Image 7
SAME PAGE: Joshua? Fox (5 lines below Wm. Carson) (age 45+) - Image 7
NEXT DOOR: ?? Beedle (010010-34010) age 26-45 - Image 7
Wm Carson Fallowfield,Washington,PA 1820 (111101-21101) age 45+ - Image 7 (m. Mary Burgess)
Mark Mccord Nottingham,Washington,PA 1820

History of Rush Co. Indiana by Brant and Fuller, 1888, P. 771-772.

William Carson Fox, son of Ellis and Mary (Carson) Fox, was born in Washington County, Pa., near Monongahela City, September 7, 1828. His father was a native of Maryland, and belonged to the Society of Friends. He was a descendant of the Fox family who came to the United States with William Penn, in the Seventeenth century. Ellis (our subject's father) was the son of Joshua and Sarah (Heath) Fox, and Mary, his wife, was the daughter of William and Mary (Burgess) Carson. About the year 1829 or 1830, Ellis came from Washington County Pennsylvania, to the Union Township, Rush Co. Ind., and purchased a farm, carrying with him, $600 in silver, and then returned to his Pennsylvania home, making the entire journey on foot. In the spring of 1831, with his wife and three children, viz.: Elizabeth, John, and William C. (the subject of this sketch), he began the journey toward his new home in the far west, and with the tide of western migration they floated down the Ohio River to Cincinnati, and in a few weeks located on the farm where William now resides. During his young manhood, the father worked at the trade of stone mason. He was one of the original members of the Christian Church, which worshipped at Plum Creek, and during his entire life, his influence was on the side of truth justice, and morality. He died in 1852; his wife, Mary, followed him in July, 1860, and together they rest in the burying ground at Fairview. On the 19th of September, 1849, William C. married to Margaret Rich, a daughter of Tillman and Martha (Carson) Rich, who came from OH to Indiana, in an early day. The children of this marriage are Mary, married Joseph McFadden, 1870; John E. H., deceased, and a quiet unassuming gentleman, respected by his neighbors and usually votes the Democratic ticket. He is living a quiet life on the farm where his father died.

The Burke (Burk) Family in Greene / Washington, TN

As mentioned earlier, we have two Burke females connected to those who were in or near Greene and Washington, TN.  Mary Burke married David Carson April 26, 1794 in Washington, TN.  The mother of Absolom and Joseph Beedle was a Burke (if this information is correct).  Both of these families were possibly in the area of Greene and Washington, TN in the 1780-1790 time period.

A James Burk was on the 1783 Greene, TN Tax List along with the Carsons.  Also, a Reuben Burk was married (twice) in Washington, TN in 1805 and 1807.  Reuben may have been related to Mary Burke.  James Burk may have been Mary's father, since she was married 1794 in Washington, TN.

Washington, TN Marriages
http://members.tripod.com/~LadyValois/wash1810.htm
Reuben Burk--Polly Lyons--Jul 25 1805
Reuben Burk--Lacy Forbes--Jul 20 1807

Very little information is available on Burk / Burke families in the region of Greene and Washington, TN during that time period.  If you know of any Burk / Burke families in that region please contact Sandra.

A James Burke was found on the LDS web site.  He was born ca. 1751 in Virginia and had a daughter, Mary C. Burke, born ca. 1777 in Virginia.  He married Sophia Wade.  This is a possibility for Mary Burke who married David Carson.

A James Burk was located in the 1830 census living in Rush Co, Indiana. This is where Joseph Linn Carson was living.  He was born between 1800 and 1810, so he would not be the same one who was in 1783 Greene, TN.  However, he may be related.  Also in 1830 Rush, Indiana were Joshua Burk, Hansbury Burk, Elizy Burk and Robert Burkes.  A John and Carly Burk were in Franklin Co, Indiana in 1830.

Hansbury Burk was in Fountain, Indiana in 1840.  Also there were Early, Elsey, Hunter and John Burk.  Fountain, Indiana is where many of the families allied with David Carson were living and David was also living there in about that time period.

In 1840 a John Burk was living in Davis Twp, Fountain, Indiana.  Also there was Abram Beedle, the brother of Aaron Beedle who married the daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis (Mary).  This John Burk was age 20-30, so he was born between 1800 and 1810.  He may be a descendant of the James Burk who was in Greene, TN.  John Burk was listed in image #1 and Abram Beedle was listed on image #3.

According to the LDS web site, Hansbury Burk was born 1800-1802 in Virginia and was the son of Joshua Burk and Catherine.  He married Malinda Ginn September 20, 1827 in Rush Co, Indiana.  Hansbury died Sept. 3, 1877. 

Joshua Burk was born Feb. 26, 1784 in Washington, Virginia.  His other children were Cosander (male) (b. 1799 KY), Nancy (b. 1808 VA, m. Jacob Lemaster July 7, 1830 in rush, Indiana), Harding (b. 1812 KY), Coleman (b. 1823 KY), Early (b. ca. 1796, m. Fanny Ginn Sept 21, 1819 in Mason, KY), Ebza (b. ca. 1797, m. Lavina Parker Mar 8, 1827 in Rush, Indiana), Elizabeth (b. 1812 KY, m. Truman G. Parker Mar 29, 1833 in Rush, Indiana), Gibson (b. Mar 31, 1806 VA, m. Sarah Ann Deweese Feb 4, 1834 in Rush, Indiana), Hardin (b. 1813 KY, m. Amanda), Henry S. (b. 1817 KY, m. Darinda Spillman Oct. 12, 1837 in Decatur, Indiana), James (b. ca. 1800, d. 1849 in Decatur, Indiana, m. Mary A. Spillman Oct 4, 1827 in Decatur, Indiana), Robert (b. 1811, m. Nancy Jones Dec. 1, 1831 in Rush, Indiana).

Joshua Burk's father was Michael Burk, b. 1738 in Culpeper, VA, died 1835 in Madison, KY, married Rachel. 

It is possible that Joshua Burk was related to the James Burk who was on the 1783 Tax List of Greene, TN.

The Hunter Burk who was also in Fountain, Indiana in 1840 may be the same one who was in Fairfield, Franklin, Indiana in 1880.  He was born ca. 1808 in Ireland and was married to Margaret, b. ca. 1803 in PA.  It is not known if Hunter was related to the other Burk families.

This Burk family followed a migratory path similar to that of the other families I am researching who went to OH and IN.   A Michael and Joshua Burk were in Madison, KY in 1810, along with Lindsey Carson.  Benjamin Fowler had been there in 1792 and 1800.

1810 Census
Joshua Burk Not Stated, Madison, KY 1810
Michael Burk Not Stated, Madison, KY 1810
George Burks Not Stated, Madison, KY 1810

This means the Burk family probably had to go through the Cumberland Gap to get to Madison, KY.  Therefore, they could have been in or near Greene and Washington, TN prior to arriving in KY.

If you have any information about these Burk families, please contact Sandra

CARSON AND ELLIS FAMILIES IN ADAMS COUNTY, OHIO

Adams County, Ohio seems to be a location of great importance in this Carson-Ellis research.  Margaret Ellis was the daughter of Nathan Ellis and Mary Ann Walker.  Some of Margaret's close relatives were living in Adams Co, Ohio at the same time as some Carson families who were connected to Carsons from PA and Greene, TN.  We'll take a look at the 1830 census records....

1830 Federal Census Extract - Adams Co, Ohio
(Shown in page number order.  Page numbers are significant because this census was not alphabetized)

THE BLACKBURN FAMILY OF TENNESSEE AND ILLINOIS

** A Nancy Glorian Blackburn married a John Carson, June 21, 1804 in Dandridge, TN.  She was in Macoupin Co, Illinois in 1850, living between two of her sons - James Montgomery Carson and William Harvey Carson.  The wife of James Montgomery Carson was Eliza J. Gulick.  In 1840 her sons were in Macoupin, IL along with an Elizabeth Blackburn, age 50-60.  It is not known if this Elizabeth was the same one who was in Adams, OH in 1830 living two doors away from Nancy Carson, possible widow of Robert Carson of Champaign, OH.  The ages don't quite match up, however there was also a Francis Gulick Sr. and a David Gulick in 1830 Adams, OH.  This is an unusual name which makes me think these families are connected.  This Blackburn family was connected by marriage to the Ritchey family, as was the daughter of Moses Carson of Washington, TN -- his daughter Sarah Carson married James Ritchey July 20, 1795 in Washington, TN.

One of Nancy Glorian Blackburn's uncles was William Blackburn, b. 1755 Frederick, VA.  He married Elizabeth Black in 1777.  This Elizabeth could be the one who was in 1830 Adams, OH (living two doors away from Nancy Carson) and 1840 Macoupoin, IL.  If so, this is a possible OH-IN connection between the Carsons of Adams Co, OH and the Carsons of Dandridge, Jefferson, TN.  This includes Samuel Carson, son of Samuel Alexander Carson and Jeneat Patterson.  Until this discovery, I was not aware that any of their descendants might have been in the Ohio-Indiana area.  It is not known which John Carson Nancy Glorian Blackburn married, but I think it was John, the son of Samuel Carson and Sarah Gibson, so, this is all based on the guesswork surrounding that temporary assumption. 

1840 census
James M Carson  Macoupin, Illinois (age 20-30) <1810-1820> - Image 35
John B Carson  Macoupin, Illinois (age 20-30) <1810-1820> (6 lines from Wm. H. Carson) - Image 35
William H Carson  Macoupin, Illinois (age 30-40) <1800-1810> (6 lines from A. M. Blackburn) - Image 35
A M Blackburn  Macoupin, Illinois (age 20-30) <1810-1820> - Image 35
NEXT DOOR: Wm. Ritchie (age 50-60) <1780-1790> - Image 35
Anthony Blackburn Macoupin, Illinois (002001-00021) age 30-40 <1800-1810> - Image 9
Elizabeth Blackburn  Macoupin, Illinois (01111-00010001) age 50-60 <1780-1790> - Image 9 (3 lines from Anthony Blackburn)
Grundy H Blackburn Not Stated, Macoupin, Illinois

These Blackburns are identified as follows: 
A M Blackburn is Anderson Montgomery Blackburn, son of Gideon Blackburn and Grizelle Blackburn.  Anderson was born 1818 in Dandridge, Jefferson, TN.  Anthony Blackburn is unknown at this time.  Grundy Blackburn was the brother of Anderson Blackburn.  The father, Gideon, died 1838 in Macoupin, Illinois.  Elizabeth Blackburn was probably the aunt (nee Black) of Gideon Blackburn.

The source for the marriage between Nancy Glorian Blackburn and John Carson is as follows:

Publication:
Author: Challacombe, W. A.
The Benjamin Blackburn family and notes on Blackburns in America
Carlinville, Ill.: W.A. Challacombe, 1942, 151 pgs.
 

Rachel Carson of Champaign, Ohio....

A response to an email was just received from a researcher of William Benson who married Rachel Carson.  Here is what she sent...

I've found what records I still have and my Benson / Carson connection is
William Benson b. 09 Apr 1800 Pennsylvania, d. 20 Jun 1878 Linn Co, iowa. He
married about 1825 to Rachel Carson, b. 17 Nov 1807 Tennesse, d/o David
Carson and Hannah.  Rachel died 25 Feb 1861 in Linn Co, IA. Wm & Rachel &
family lived in Champaign Co, OH before they moved about 1845 to Iowa.

Notice that Rachel's mother was Hannah.  She was born in Tennessee and lived in Champaign, OH so she could have been connected to the Carsons in Greene and Washington, TN.  Below are some notes for Rachel Carson that reveals something I didn't catch earlier...The John Carson who was in Champaign, OH in 1820 with Robert was still there as late as 1838.  Robert does not name a son John in his will, so John may be his nephew or brother, and they may both be related to the mysterious David who was supposedly the father of Rachel.

Note for: Rachel Carson, 17 NOV 1807 - 25 FEB 1861
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[allen.FTW]
[Custer for Allen.ged]
d. 53y, 9m. 8d - so her b.d. ought to be Abt 17 May 1807. Census record says she was born in Tennessee.
LAND: Possible relative is John Carson caught in the tax lists for Jackson Twp, Champaign Co , Ohio as follows:
1835 - John Carson (10-3-12) either 81.5 acres on E 1/2 of NE, value $202
1836 - John Carson (10-3-12) 87.5 acres on E 1/2 NE, value $312
1837 - John Carson (10-3-12) 81.5 acres on E 1/2 of NE, value $202
1838 - John Carson (10-3-12) 81.5 acres on E 1/2 of NE, value $202

William Benson is found in the 1830 census living in Jackson Twp, Champaign, OH - the same township where Robert Carson (from Greene, TN) lived before he died in 1823.   Also in the same township is an Arthur Benson, same age bracket.  He was William's brother.

In 1840, Arthur is living in Warren Co, OH and William is still in Jackson, Champaign, OH.  Warren, OH is very close to Hamilton and Butler, OH where Margaret Ellis and David Carson lived before going to Indiana and Illinois.

William and Arthur Benson were the sons of William and Elizabeth Benson (LDS web site).  William was born April 9, 1800 in PA and died June 20, 1878 in Linn Co, IA.  He was buried at Benson Cemetery, Havre, Linn, IA.  He married Rachel Carson November 3, 1824 in Champaign, OH. 

The Parents of Rachel Carson....

Rachel Carson Benson died 1861 in Washington, IA.  Her father was David and her mother was Hannah.  I found Hannah Carson in Washington, IA in 1860 living with James Benson.  James was born 1824 in Ohio and he was married to Mary, born 1830 in PA.  Notice there is a Mary Welch age 9 in their household.  Elmira Carson, probable daughter of David Carson and Margaret Ellis, married John Henry Welch.  Mary could be connected to this Welch family.

1860 Census
Jas Benson Washington, Washington, IA 35 1824 Ohio Male
Mary F Benson Washington, Washington, IA 29 1830 Pennsylvania Female
Arthur E Benson Washington, Washington, IA 11 1848 Iowa Male
John P Benson Washington, Washington, IA 7 1852 Iowa Male
Celia E Benson Washington, Washington, IA 3.12 Iowa Female
Mary M Welch Washington, Washington, IA 9 1850 Iowa Female
Saml Hodge Washington, Washington, IA 64 1795 New Hampshire Male
Hannah Carson Washington, Washington, IA 70 1789 Virginia Female

Hannah Carson was in Sprigg, Adams Co, Ohio in 1850...

1850 Census - Sprigg, Adams, OH abt 1778 Virginia
John Carson, 23, farmer, OH
Hannah Carson, 72, VA
Eliza, 24, OH
NEXT DOOR:
Samuel Carson, 25, laborer, OH
Mary, 28, KY
Mary J, 1, OH

So, after spending hours and hours tracking these people, it looks like the David Carson who was in Washington/Greene, TN and related to the Robert Carson in Champaign, OH was not the David Carson who married Margaret Ellis.  Instead, this other David married Hannah and probably died before 1850.

There was, however, more than one David Carson in the region of early Greene and Washington, TN, according to an email from another researcher.  David Carson and Margaret Ellis could have been there also.  I still believe it's possible that David Carson who married Margaret Ellis may have been in or near Greene, TN. 

FOLLOWING THE CLUES....

Based on the fact that Margaret's parents were in Fallowfield, Washington, PA (see below), I'm certain they were closely connected to the Carsons who went to Adams Co, Ohio from Fallowfield township.  Nathan Ellis was a member of the same church as Thomas Carson and Mary Gibson in Washington, PA.  Thomas Carson's brothers, James and Joseph, migrated to Adams Co, Ohio as early as 1810.  Nathan Ellis and his sons were on the 1810 tax list of Adams Co, Ohio along with James and Joseph Carson, Clement Beedle and John Fowler.  John D. Fowler settled in Brown Co, OH as did Nathan Ellis.  John D. Fowler was probably the uncle of Benjamin Fowler whose daughter Rebecca married Henry Carson, son of David Carson and Margaret Ellis.  Benjamin Fowler was in Butler Co, OH no later than 1808.  The Carsons from Fallowfield township were descendants of Thomas Carson and Mary Smith.  Thomas was probably the son of William Carson and Eleanor McDuff.  Their son Lindsey Carson was in Madison, KY in 1800 and so was Benjamin Fowler.  The Fowlers were in Fayette, PA (next to Washington, PA) before going to KY and OH.  Many of these people, while still in PA, were signators on the Petition for a new state that would have included Fayette, Washington and Greene Co, PA. (See below).

The wife of Nathan Ellis, Mary Ann Walker, was probably related to one of the Walkers who signed the Petition for a new state.  A Gideon Walker married Priscilla Duvall, daughter of Mareen Duvall and Ruth Howard.   This Duvall family was known to have been in Fayette, PA with the Fowlers and intermarried with the Fowlers in earlier Maryland.  It is possible that Mary Ann Walker was the sister or cousin of Gideon Walker.  Gideon Walker was born ca. 1737 (probably too young to be Mary Ann's father) and Mary Ann Walker was born 1752.  One of the other Walkers on the list may have been Mary Ann's father.  Further research will be done on this.  Some of the Duvalls also went to early Southwestern Ohio.

Gideon Walker and Priscilla Duvall were still in Prince Georges, MD as late as 1775.  But their son Joseph Howard Walker was born 1782 in Pennsylvania.  This is an indication that the Gideon Walker on the Petition list could have been the one who married Priscilla Duvall.  Joseph Howard Walker married Kate Featherkile 1802 in Nelson, KY.  This is the county where Benjamin Fowler was in 1791 along with Zachariah Dewitt. 

NOTE:  John A. Carson (m. Leah) of Fayette, PA was possibly the son of William Carson Sr. and Sarah of Fayette, PA.  John A. Carson may have been born in Virginia.  John A. Carson and Leah settled in Butler, OH as early as 1806.  The Alexander Carson who was listed on the Petition for a new state may have been John's brother.   John had a brother William who was born in Northumberland, PA.  It is not known if they were related to the Carsons who were in Washington, PA.  This line has been extensively researched by another researcher.

Genealogical Records: Early Ohio Settlers, 1700s-1900s
Listed in: Ohio Source Records
Page number: 104
Ohio Source Records, Index to Tax List of 1810, Adams Co., Page 104
Jeremiah Ellis, Jeremiah Ellis Sen., Jesse Ellis, John Ellis, Nathan Ellis, John Fowler, Clement Beedle, James Carson, Joseph Carson

FALLOWFIELD TOWNSHIP
The tract of land surveyed to Henry Krepps, March 1, 1786, by virtue of a certificate which had been granted to him by the commissioner's of Virginia, was called "Maiden Head," and contained four hundred and twenty-six acres. It was located near the lands of Alexander Hill, Philip Miller, and Thomas Carson.

As early as 1783, Fallowfield township paid a State tax which amounted to £50, and it was the only township in Washington County that paid such a tax in that year, the county commissioners in the report of their session held that year stating that "they did exonerate and discharge the inhabitants of each township from the payment of the State tax, except a few inhabitants in Fallowfield township, which the commissioners allowed should pay a State tax, for reasons known to them, which amounts to £50." Benjamin White was the assessor of Fallowfield township for 1783, Nathan Ellis collector, and the amount of the county tax £94 10s.

Nathan Ellis - Capt. Commanding Company in the Regiment of Washington Co., PA Militia. Col. Daniel Broadhead. Born 1749, Wales. Parents James Ellis and Nancy (Veatch) Ellis. Married 1770 Mary Walker in Brownsville, PA. Children: Margaret, Mary, John, Jeremiah, Jesse, Samuel, Nancy, Nathan, Nelly and Elander. Died 1819, Aberdeen, Huntington Twp., Brown Co., OH. Buried on hill overlooking Aberdeen. (MD - Rejected application file #R3317)

History: Local: Early Settlers, Petition for a New State: Fayette, Washington & Greene Cos, PA
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/fayette/history/local/earlysett01.txt
PETITION FOR A NEW STATE
(List alphabetized from "The Ten Mile Country and Its Pioneer Families").
Fayette, Washington & Greene Co PA and Ohio & Monongalia Co VA
(From an original petition for a new state located in the
Library of Congress. No date on document. Papers of the Continental
Congress No 48, Folios 251-6, pages 89-96). The names in this petition,
which is not dated, seem at times to be taken from the militia rolls,
and if circulated after 1780 contains names of persons deceased or
moved from the district. There is no attempt to conceal the fact that
the signatures were written by the prime agitators of the movement as
many of those names which appear here could only make their mark.)

Alexander Carson - brother of John A. Carson?
James Carson - m. Agnes Nancy McKee
John Carson - went to Butler, OH, married Leah, lived in Fayette, PA
Thomas Carson - m. Mary Gibson, father of James and Joseph
William Carson - m. Mary Burgess
Samuel Coapstick - Copesticks went to Butler, OH-John m. Eliz. Carson d/o John and Leah
Henry Dever (Devore) -cousin of Elizabeth Devore who m. James A. Fowler in Butler, OH
Ezekial Dewitt - poss. rel. of Zachariah Dewitt of Butler, OH
Jeremiah Dewitt
Hezekiah Ellis
Hezikiah Ellis
Jeremiah Ellis
Jeremiah Ellis
Jesse Ellis
Nathan Ellis - father of Margaret Ellis
James Ellis Sr.
Jacob Fowler - probable uncle of Benjamin Fowler
George Gilmore
Hugh Gilmore
James Gilmore
Mathew Gilmore - poss. brother of Isabella Gilmore who m. William Carson Jr.
William Gilmore
John Huston - poss. rel. of unknown Huston who m. Peggy Carson, d/o Robt who died in Champaign, OH
William McKee - poss. relative of Agnes Nancy McKee
Alexander Nailor
Benjamin Nailor - possible brother of Mary Naylor who m. Benjamin Fowler
George Nailor
Alexander Patterson
Thomas Patterson
Joseph Reddick
Thomas Reddick - m. Nancy Fowler, daughter of Benjamin Fowler and Mary Naylor
William Reddick
George Underwood - poss. rel. of Nancy Underwood who m. Jeremiah Ellis
Jacob Veach
Nathan Veach - nephew of Mary Veatch, mother of Nathan Ellis
Samuel Veach
William Veach
John Veatch
John Veich(Veatch)
Gideon Walker - may have been the one who m. Priscilla Duvall, d/o Mareen Duvall & Ruth Howard
Henry Walker
James Walker
Robert Walker
William Walker

The Walkers of Early Pennsylvania

There is speculation by others that the Gideon Walker who was in early PA was a descendant of Charles Walker and Rebecca Isaac of Maryland, since these Walkers were known to have been in the area of Fayette, PA at the same time as Gideon.  Rebecca Isaac was related to the Isaacs who married into the Fowler and Naylor families of early Prince Georges and Anne Arundel, Maryland. 

This speculation includes the possiblity that Gideon was the son of George Walker of Calvert, MD...

GENFORUM:

 1782-1785 Gideon Walker on tax list, Fayette Co, PA. June 1788 purchased 100a. Brown Rambles from Thomas Brown, Fayette Co, PA. Land within 1/2 mile of Redstone Old Fort, later Brownsville. (Joan Wright.) A lot of the families connected with the Charles and Rebecca Isaac Walker family, such as the Brashears, Pottingers, Duvalls, Swearingens, etc, went to Fayette Co, PA during the same time that Gideon Walker was there. In Fayette Co, PA 1790 along with William Walker, Robert Walker, Zadoc Walker, George Walker. In 1790 Census in Fayette Co with 3 males over 16, 3 males under 16, and 3 females. The two sons under 16 have been accounted for, being Gideon Jr and Joseph Howard. As for the three over 16, only Alexander is known for sure. Sons Mareen D and Zachariah did not go to Pennsylvania but stayed in PGC, Maryland. Possibly two other sons, Lewis D and Cornelius, both of whom were on early tax list for Nelson Co, KY for several years, then disappear

Gideon Jr., Mareen D, Zachariah, Alexander and Joseph Howard Walker were sons of Gideon Walker and Priscilla Duvall.  Only Gideon, Alexander and Joseph went to Fayette, PA.  A George Walker was on the 1790 census of Fayette, PA and he could have been Gideon's close relative, possibly an unknown brother named after their father...

CALVERT, MD - George Walker, b G1641; transported 1666 . In February 1661 a George Walker was on the Calvert Co. rent rolls, having had surveyed for him 280 a. Plumpton on the west side of the South River in now Anne Arundel County, and before Anne Arundel, in Prince Georges County. 1664 property is said to adjoin property of Mareen Duvall. Property later known as The Plains, Wilson's Plain or the Great Marsh. Property at one point purchased by Mareen Duvall, immigrant. Mareen Duvall the younger obtained by purchase or inheritance. Pricilla, daughter of Mareen Duvall, younger, m. W-GIDEON/1727 Gideon Walker, suggesting connection between George Walker and Gideon. Possibly same George Walker of Calvert County, who witnessed will of
Joseph Edlowe, Jr (1666), who lived on south side of the Patuxent, then in Calvert County. (Newman, Palatinate, 311)

Mary Ann Walker who married Nathan Ellis could have been related to these Walkers, since she was from Redstone Creek, Washington, PA.  There was a Redstone in Fayette, PA as well.
 

Some Familiar Names on the Battle of King's Mountain Roster

Thanks to another researcher (Frances) who sent me the link to the web site for the roster, we now see that many of the people being researched on this web site were on that roster.  If you have information about any of these people, please contact Sandra.

BATTLE OF KING'S MOUNTAIN ROSTER
American Revolution in South Carolina and Western North Carolina
http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/Kingsmountainroster.html#References
October 7, 1780
Barnett, Alexander
Barnett, Alexander, Captain
Blackburn, Arthur
Blackburn, George
Blackburn, John
Blackburn, Joseph
Blackburn, Robert
Blackburn, William (k)
Blackburn, William, Lieutenant (k)
Bratton, Col. William (from Wisconsin Historical Society documents)
Bratton, Hugh (from Wisconsin Historical Society documents)
Bratton, Thomas (from Wisconsin Historical Society documents)
Bratton, Samuel (from Wisconsin Historical Society documents)
Brooks, David
Brooks, George
Brooks, John
Brooks, Littleton
Brooks, Moses
Brooks, Thomas
Brooks, William
Carson, Andrew
Carson, David (was this the David who married Margaret Ellis?)
Carson, John
Carson, John, Captain
Carson, William, Captain
Carson, Thomas (from Wisconsin Historical Society documents)
Dickey, Andrew
Dickey, David
Dickey, John, Captain
Dysart, James, Captain (w)
Dysart, John
Fowler, James (possible son of Benjamin Fowler and Mary Naylor)
Fowler, John
Fowler, William (k)
Galbreath, Arthur
Galbreath, John (?)
Galbreath, Robert
Gamble, Choat
Gamble, Josiah
Gamble, Robert
Gibson, James, Captain
Gibson, John
Gibson, Thomas
Grimes, George
Grimes, James
Hanna, Andrew
Hanna, Robert
Hannah, Robin, Captain
Higgins, Johm
Hill, James
Hill, William, Colonel (in command of Sumpter's force)
Jenkins, Jacob
Jenkins, James
Jenkins, Thomas
Jenkins, William
Lindsay, James
Lindsay, John
Love, Andrew, Colonel
Love, Hezekiah
Love, John
Love, Robert
Love, William, Lieutenant
Martindale, James A.
McKee, James
Meek, Adam
Meek, Adam, Lieutenant
Meek, James
Meek, John
Meek, Moses
Neally, B.
Neally, William
Neeley, Joseph (w)
Patterson, Arthur, Sr. (k?)
Patterson, Arthur, Jr.
Patterson, James
Patterson, John
Patterson, Robert
Patterson, Thomas
Patterson, William
Patterson, William (k?)
Pittman, William
Pittman, William, Lieutenant
Price, James
Price, John
Price, Jonathan
Price, Samuel
Price, Thomas, Captain
Price, William
Reed, Abraham
Reed, Benjamin
Reed, David
Reed, James
Reed, John
Reed, Joseph
Reed, Lovett
Reed, Samuel
Reed, Thomas
Reed, William
Ritchie, Alexander
Ritchie, Samuel
Ritchie, William
Snodgrass, James
Snodgrass, William
Veatch, Nathan I.
Walker, Felix, Lieut. - Colonel
Walker, John
Walker, William

Some interesting narrative about the battle:

The impressive numbers of the Tory force, and their actions against Richmond Town, brought considerable concern to the Whig forces. The first to react was Andrew Carson, who lives about 15 miles west of the Shallow Ford. Upon hearing the first reports of the Tory uprising, about the first of October, he mounted his horse and rode to the headquarters of General William Lee Davidson, commanding North Carolina militia near Charlotte Town. General Davidson gave him command of 52 men, and this company sought out the Tories for the next two weeks, before meeting them in the battle of the Shallow Ford.

Mary Veatch

We know that Col. James Ellis and Mary Veatch were from Prince Georges, Maryland - the same part of Maryland that the Fowlers were from.  From the Maryland Archives we find some familiar names listed on the roster of Maryland troops in the Revolutionary War.  The Ellis names on this list were probably related to Nathan.  The Veatch names on the list were probably related to Mary Veatch.  Gideon and George Walker are on the list and they went to Fayette, PA at about the same time as the Fowlers did.  William Blackburn who is also on this list was probably the uncle of Nancy Glorian Blackburn who married John Carson in Dandridge, Jefferson, TN.  William Blackburn was born in Frederick, MD - a location where some of the Fowlers also lived.

MARYLAND TROOPS IN THE REV WAR
MARYLAND ARCHIVES
Blackburn, William, 42.
Burgis, Veach, 8.
Burgoone, Robert, 39.
Burk, —, 74.
Burk, Garret, 188.
Burk (Burck), James, 66,
184, 186, 191, 322, 319,
418, 422, 440, 469, 501,
606, 624, 626, 630, 661.
Burk (Birk), Michael, 189,309.
Burk, Peter, 12, 86.
Burk, Walter, 344.
Carson, John, 353, 365, 394,462, 487, 629.
Duvall, Benj., 36, 200, 382,407.
Duvall, Edward (—),102, 481, 616.
Duvall, G., 642, 644.
Duvall (Duvaull), George,103, 297, 385.
Duvall, Isaac. 102, 296,362,378, 519.
Duvall, Joseph, 101, 572.
Duvall, Richard, 200, 349,407, 440, 531.
Duvall, Samuel, 101, 407.Duvall, William, 84, 35.
Fowler (Fouler), Henry,108, 331.
Fowler, James, 110.
Fowler, John, 109, 207, 386.
Fowler, Jonathan, 108, 305,858, 432, 684, 497,
Fowler, Joseph, 108, 313,396, 432, 492, 534, 656.
Fowler, Patrick, 66.
Fowler, Saml. 319, 868.
Fowler, Thomas, 60.
Fowler, William, 108.
Gibson, Francis, 648.
Gibson, Jacob, 421, 472,646.
Gibson, Jas., 16.
Gibson, John, 114, 116, 209,210, 297, 483, 536, 647.
Gibson, Jonathan (—), 67, 74, 208, 351, 364, 880, 480, 618, 646.
Gibson, Joseph, 116.
Gibson, Joshua, 666.
Gibson, Woolman, of John, 67.
Grimes, Anthony, 65.
Grimes, David, 116.
Grimes, Greenbury, 408.
Grimes, John, 33, 67.
Grimes, Nathl., 41.
Grimes, Terrence, 55,
Grimes, William, 12, 41,673, 679, 682, 684.
Ellis, Brion, 204.
Ellis, John, 49, 107,
Ellis, Joshua, 30.
Ellia, Michael, 106, 683.
Ellis, Richard, 203.
Ellis, Robert, 24, 106.
Eilis (Elliss), Thomas, 107,204, 342, 346, 8SS, 492,633.
Ellis, William, 107, 633,664, 567, 670.
Iiams (Iams), Frederick (see Hioms and Jams), 608, 642.
liams (lams), John (see Irons), 126, 571.
Ijams, Henry, 516,
ljams, Vachel, 409.
Isaacs, Isaac, 128.
Isaacs, James, 443, 542,661.
Isaacs (Isaacks), Joseph,394, 433, 513, 542.
Howard, Joseph, 66, 116.
Walker, Charles, 258, 651.
Walker, Chr., 61.
Walker, Edward, 174, 256,257.
Walker, George, 331.
Walker, Gideon, 336, 369.
Walker, James, 58.
Walker, John, 8, 60, 69,178, 174, 177, 179, 269,358, 366, 394, 396, 418,436, 447, 460, 498, 500,503, 559, 560, 561.
Walker, Jonathan, 59.
Walker, Miclial, 69.
Walker, Robert, 176, 442,510, 559,
Walker, Samuel, 256, 660.
Walker, Thomas, 174, 606,615, 660.
Walker, William, 43, 60,69, 173, 291, 346, 382, 464.
Veach, John, 8.
Veatch, Abram, 254.
Veatch, Jacob, 43.
Veatch, William, 49.

Who was John Carson of the Maryland Rev. War Troops?

I am attempting to learn more about the officer John Carson who served in the Maryland troops.  It is possible that he may be connected to some of the Carsons we've found during our research.  From the following Maryland Archive extract, it appears he was a Captain or Lieutenant at one point.  No date is given on this record but the surrounding records were dated 1781.  Also, notice the name James McFadon (McFadden) who served with John Carson in the Maryland Artillery.  He may be related to Hugh McFadden who married Mary Carson, daughter of Adam Carson who was possibly in Mifflin, PA with Henry Carson.

OFFICERS OF THE MARYLAND ARTILLERY SUPERNUMERARY.
Richard Dorsey, Captain Jacques Baques, 1st Lieut. James McFadon, 1st Lieut.
Wm. Brown,do Nicholas Rickets, do Isaac Rawlings, 2nd do
Ebenezer Finley, Capt. Lt. Young Wilkinson, do John Cheviar,do
James Smith, do Clement Skerrett, do John Carson, do
Robert Wilmot, Lieut.

At one point, John Carson was a sergeant in the 4th company as was a John Walker.  Joseph Isaac served as a private in that company.

4TH COMPANY, 3RD REGIMENT.

Sergeants:
Willm. Collis
Jno. Walker
Jno. Carson
Francis Duffey
Jacob Keyser

Privates : Joseph Isaacs

John Carson also served as a sergeant under Col. John S. Belt.  The Belt family was allied with the Fowlers, Duvalls and Isaacs. 

3RD COMPANY. CAPT. JOHN S. BELT.
John Carson, Sergeant

CARSONS AND OTHERS IN THE MARYLAND ARCHIVES

Searches for Carson on the Maryland Archives web site revealed the following results:

A Thomas Carson was in Kent, MD in a 1713 court record, mentions wife Elizabeth and a beating she suffered at the hands of a woman named Mary Obrian, wife of Laughlin Obrian.

Samuel Carson is mentioned in court documents in 1723/24...

Proceedings and Acts of the General Assembly
March the 18th 1723/4
Samuel Carson Sold John Hyde and Company
100 Pair Holsters and Caps and Straps @ 55. Qd. £28.. 15.. 0
100 of Buckles and Straps @ is. 6d. 7.. 10.. 0
zoo Carbine Belts with Buckles @ 35. 6d. 19.. 4.. 4
100 Cartoach Boxes @ is. 3d. in Gold 6- 5..-
Packing and Carrying 3- 8 £61..17.. —

Thomas and Elizabeth Carson are again mentioned in a court document in 1733.  Mentions Mary Obrian and Laughlin Obrian of Chester town.

1766-1768 Henry Casson is mentioned (also in 1752-1754)...

Proceedings and Acts of the General Assembly, 1766-1768
Read and referred the Petition of Henry Casson and Company,
Also the Petition of the Vestry and Sundry Inhabitants of Saint
Johns Parish, in Queen Anns County Sent by Walter Dulany Esq,,r
Adjourned until Monday Morning 10 of the Clock

1781 - Jubb Fowler and John Carson are mentioned on the same day in the same court.  The treasurer is ordered to pay John Carson a payment and Jubb Fowler was appointed the messenger of the Court on that day.  Jubb was the probable brother of Benjamin Fowler I who married Hammutal Stinchcomb. 

Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1780-1781
February 6, 1781
Jubb Fowler appointed Messenger to the Governor and Council in
the room of Robert Reith deceased.
February 6, 1781
That the said Treasurer pay to Capt William Brown Twenty
pounds six shillings and three pence of the same Emission in lieu of
eight hundred and twelve pounds, ten shillings due himself, nineteen
pounds, eighteen shillings and one penny half penny of the same
Emission in lieu of seven hundred and ninety six pounds, five shil-
lings for the use of Lieut John Carson and eighteen pounds, five
shillings and seven pence half penny of the same Emission in lieu of
seven hundred and thirty one pounds, five shilings for the use of
Capt. James Smith

In 1781 Elizabeth Casson is mentioned...

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0426, Page 0159 - A Biographical Dictionary of the Maryland Legislature 1635-1789 by Edward C. Papenfuse, et. al. ... Charles Brown; Mary, who married (first name unknown) Bannister; and Betty, who married (first name unknown) Freeny. MARRIED in March 1781 Elizabeth Casson (?-by 1798). CHILDREN. SONS: probably Henry; probably Joshua. DAUGHTER: Polly, who married (first name unknown) Wilson.
 

A Henry Casson is mentioned prior to 1789....

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0426, Page 0282 - A Biographical Dictionary of the Maryland Legislature 1635-1789 by Edward C. Papenfuse, et. al.
... ?-1747), of Queen Anne's County, planter, and wife Elizabeth Fisher; step- daughter of Elizabeth Clarke; niece of Esther Bay- nard, who married Henry Casson (?-ca. 1788). Her brother was Thomas (?-1753), of Talbot County, a planter who married his stepsister Hannah Clarke. Her stepbrother was Joshua ...

1766-1768 - Hugh Carson, David Lin, Thos. Ewing, Hugh Burges, are among the signators on a petition, no date given

John Carson and James McFadon are mentioned in court documents in 1779...(NOTE: Mary Carson, daughter of Adam Carson of Northumberland, PA, married a McFadden)

Council of Maryland, 1778-1779. Wednesday 29 September 1779
Present as on Yesterday
Ordered that the western shore Treasurer pay to Capt.
William Brown of the Artillery the following Sums to wit.
C. B.
for himself
for James Smith Capt Lieut of his Compy 750..750..
James MoFadon first Lieut of Do 750.. —
John Carson second Lieut of Do 750.. —

In 1779-1780 James and Thomas Casson are mentioned...

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0043, Page 0230 - Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1779-1780
... for the Recruits &ca at Chester Town and to be Accounted for. p. 176 Commissions issued to Allensby Jump appointed Capt, in the room of Thomas Casson, James Casson 1 Lieut, Solomon Kenton 2 d Lieut, Assa Banning Ens. belonging to the 28 th Battalion of Militia in Caroline County, and also to Vincent ...

Phillip Carson is mentioned in court documents in 1780..

Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1780-1781
December 6 1780 - Wm Whitely, Caroline County, to Governor and Council recommends Philip Carson to succeed the deceased commissary of purchases for that county.

On Feb. 2, 1781 a Liuetenant John CARSON is mentioned in a court document. It orders the court to pay money to him, to Capt. William Brown and to Capt. Lt. James Smith for amounts owed.  The payment to John Carson includes fourteen gallons of rum! 

1784-1789 - Robert Carson is mentioned...

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0071, Page 0139 - Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1784-1789
... Disbursements by him on the public buildings from 8th. August to 16 Instant per Account passed by the Auditor. That the said Treasurer pay to Robert Carson Four pounds, and three pence specie agreeably to the "Act to adjust the Debts due from this State" per Account passed to the 1st. November 1785 ...

Phillip Carson is mentioned in court documents 1789-1793...

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0072, Page 0335 - Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1789-1793
... , John Hardcastle, David D. Barrow of Talbot, William Jones, James Nicolls, John Harris, Daniel Hubberd, Robert Hardcastle, John Willis, and Philip Carson of Caroline County to appear as aforesaid on behalf of Charles Daffin on the hearing of his said Complaint against George Martin.

Philemon Carson is mentioned in a court summons in 1793....

Journal and Correspondence of the Council of Maryland, 1789-1793
Summons's issued to David D. Barrow and John Hardcastle of Talbot County; Robert
Hardcastle, Philemon Carson, and John Willis of Caroline County.....Friday 19th. April 1793

Phillip Casson is mentioned in 1796...

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0105, Page 0144 - Proceedings and Acts of the General Assembly, 1796
... , from the committee, brings in and delivers to the speaker the following report: THE committee to whom was referred the petition of Philip Casson, of Caroline county, a maimed and disabled officer of this state, have taken the same into consideration, and believe the facts therein stated to be true

In 1799 John, James and William Casson are mentioned....

Archives of Maryland, Volume 0192, Page 1731 - William Kilty et. al., (eds).The Laws of Maryland from the End of the Year 1799,...
... , 1815. CHAP. XCV. An Act for the benefit of John Casson and James Casson, Heirs and Representatives of William Casson, late of Caroline County, deceased. Lib. TH. No. 4, fol. 555. A Private Act ...

Robert Carson is mentioned in a court document in 1805 and it appears that he was recently deceased at that time....

MARYLAND ARCHIVES
Session Laws, 1805
BE IT ENACTED, by the General Assembly of Maryland, That James Hackett, Anna M. Hackett,
administratrix of John B. Hackett, Sarah Harrison and John Scott, administrators of Richard E.
Harrison, James Hall, Benjamin Hall, junior, William Stenson, Solomon Sparks, William H. De-
vorix and Robert Carson...

In 1829 Capt. John Carson was mentioned .."A Resolution requiring the Armourer at Annapolis to deliver to Captain John Carson, of Harford County, certain arms and accoutrements therein mentioned. Passed Feb. 11, 1830.  (Unknown if this is the same John Carson mentioned above)

Walter, James and Andrew Carson are mentioned in the following court document in 1769...Some researchers believe that Walter Carson (b. 1738 and died in Cecil, MD) was the son of Samuel Carson and Jane Patterson.  These names are very similar to Samuel Alexander Carson and Jeneat Patterson, but I don't know if they are one in the same.  Walter Carson married Nancy Ware and one of their sons (John) married Hannah Rodgers and went to Nottingham Twp, Harrison, OH between 1806 and 1808.  If you have any information about the Carsons who were in early Maryland, please contact Sandra.

MARYLAND ARCHIVES
Proceedings of the Council of Maryland, 1761-1769
Cecil County, Maryland, pages 324-326
To all Persons whom it may concern We the Subscribers do
hereby Certify that we or most of Us have been personally
acquainted with Mess" Francis and Jeremiah Baker from
their Infancy and that they have lived among us Soberly
quietly and inoffensively free from Scandal of any kind Riot-
ing or Drunkeness or any kind of Debauchery that Mr Francis
Baker has lived a Considerable time in a Different County
and that we have never heard any thing detrimental to his
Character more than when he lived amongst Us and of Jere-
miah who has lived all his Life hitherto with us we can with
Justice affirm that he has lived blameless in every Respect as
far as we ever knew or heard what is or may be now alledged
in Regard to William Reynolds Excepted and he has been
always highly Esteemed by us for his good Nature and pru-
dent Behaviour. In Testimony whereof we have hereunto set
Our hands this 27th day of May 1769.
Signators (partial list):
Thomas Love, Nathaniel Ewing, Robert Ewing, John Smith, David Smith, William Ewing, Samuel Ewing, John Hall, Andrew CARSON, William Brown, Andrew Wilson, Francis Henderson, John Ewing, Walter CARSON, John Patterson, David Patterson, James CARSON, Archibald Henderson, John Rankin, Robt. Alexander, Patrick Ewing, George Ewing.

Who were these Maryland Carsons?

I've started by checking other databases and trying to verify or disprove them.  Here are a few...

This one is interesting because this Thomas Carson went to Fayette, PA by 1804 where the Fowlers and others were.  He was too young to be the Thomas Carson who was mentioned above in the Maryland Archives.  If you have any further information about this family please contact Sandra.

ID: I50478509
Name: Thomas CARSON
Given Name: Thomas
Sex: M
Birth: 1779 in Maryland
Death: 24 Apr 1867 in Perry Township, Fayette Co., PA
Father: Abraham Carson
Marriage 1 Anna LAYTON b: 1777 in New Jersey
Married: 1804 in Fayette Co., PA
Children
Catherine CARSON b: 9 Sep 1805
Sarah CARSON b: 26 Jan 1807
Delilah CARSON b: 10 Jan 1808
John CARSON b: 20 Aug 1810
Anna CARSON b: 3 Mar 1812
Abraham CARSON b: 9 Oct 1812 in Fayette Co., PA (m. Elizabeth Chambers)
David CARSON b: 12 Aug 1815
Nancy CARSON b: 1 Apr 1816
Thomas CARSON b: 10 Feb 1818
James CARSON b: 25 Nov 1819
Samuel Allen CARSON b: 20 Feb 1822
Eli CARSON b: 20 Jan 1823

The next one may be referring to the Lieut. John Carson who was in the Maryland Archives.  Apparently, this family remained in Maryland much longer than ours, so they would not be directly connected to those being researched here.

ID: I416
Name: David Sr CARSON
Sex: M
Birth: 11 DEC 1785 in MD
Death: 7 JAN 1852 in Baltimore,MD
Burial: Western Cemetery,Baltimore,MD
Father: John CARSON b: BEF 1758
Mother: Sarah
Marriage 1 Sarah Tilden HYNSON b: 9 NOV 1792 in Kent Co,MD
Married: 30 OCT 1816 in Baltimore,MD
Children
John CARSON b: 27 NOV 1817 in Baltimore Co,MD
William Henry CARSON b: 25 NOV 1818 in Baltimore Co,MD
David CARSON_JR b: 24 SEP 1820 in Baltimore Co,MD
Joshua CARSON b: 27 JUL 1822 in Baltimore Co,MD
Sarah Jane CARSON b: 10 MAR 1824 in Baltimore Co,MD
Anna Rebecca CARSON b: 19 NOV 1825 in Baltimore Co,MD
Joseph Henry CARSON b: 22 JUL 1827 in Baltimore Co,MD
William McKendree CARSON b: 5 FEB 1829 in Baltimore Co,MD
Carville Hynson CARSON b: 14 NOV 1830 in Baltimore Co,MD
Thomas Edward CARSON b: 12 MAR 1832 in Baltimore Co,MD

This next one does not appear to be relevant to the research on this web site....

ID: I286
Name: Andrew CARSON
Sex: M
Birth: 1749 in Ireland
Death: 10 JUL 1816 in Baltimore, Maryland
Marriage 1 Jane ROWLAND b: MAR 1766
Children
John CARSON b: 22 JAN 1792 in Baltimore, Maryland (see below)

ID: I121
Name: John CARSON
Sex: M
Birth: 22 JAN 1792 in Baltimore, Maryland
Death: 16 MAR 1862 in Cecil County, Maryland
Father: Andrew CARSON b: 1749 in Ireland
Mother: Jane ROWLAND b: MAR 1766
Marriage 1 Margaret Anna COWART b: 8 JUL 1797 in Lancaster, Pa
Children
John Nevins CARSON b: 18 JUN 1840 in Port Deposit, Maryland (he moved to Georgia)

SOME CARSONS IN MIFFLIN, PENNSYLVANIA

On the the LDS web site there was a file for a Tommy Carson who married Vanessa Ellis, the daughter of Christopher Ellis and Mary Brashears.  Christopher Ellis was the 2nd great grandfather of Margaret Ellis.  Tommy Carson was born 1678 in County Down, Ireland and they were married 1702 in Prince Georges, Maryland.  This appears to be the first known Carson-Ellis marriage in America of this Ellis line.

Tommy's parents were George William Carson and Sarah Biddle.  Tommy's siblings were (all born in County Down, Ireland):  Henry Aaron (1660), Walter Lewis (1662), Isaac R. (1664), Elizabeth (1666), Robert (May 21, 1668), Jane (1670), Raymond (1676).

The parents of George William Carson were John Aaron Carson and Nancy Weddle of Ireland.  This family came to America after 1745.  Some of their descendants went to Mifflin, PA.  We also have information about some children of an Adam Carson living in Mifflin, PA.  These Carsons could be connected.  Also - the possible father of David Carson, Henry, was possibly living in Mifflin, PA in 1790.

If you have any information about them, please contact Sandra.